AHS Fall ESB
  • jlwjlw
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    Here is the recipe for one of the kits I bought from AHS. What do you think about the mash temp at 152*? Not much else i can change except for maybe the hop schedule.



    BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
    Recipe: Fall ESB
    Brewer: Yo Mama
    Asst Brewer:
    Style: Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
    TYPE: All Grain
    Taste: (30.0)

    Recipe Specifications
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    Boil Size: 7.19 gal
    Post Boil Volume: 5.98 gal
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
    Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
    Estimated Color: 12.8 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 36.3 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 82.1 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
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    Amt Name Type # %/IBU
    8 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 84.3 %
    1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 9.6 %
    8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.8 %
    2.1 oz Caramel Wheat Malt (46.0 SRM) Grain 4 1.3 %
    1.00 oz Brewer's Gold [8.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 28.3 IBUs
    0.75 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] - Boil 15.0 mi Hop 6 7.1 IBUs
    0.25 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 1.0 IBUs
    1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast 8 -


    Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
    Total Grain Weight: 10 lbs 6.1 oz
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    Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
    Mash In Add 14.49 qt of water at 166.4 F 152.0 F 60 min

    Sparge: Drain mash tun, Batch sparge with 1 steps (5.06gal) of 168.0 F water
    Notes:
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  • jlwjlw
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    Oh and two things that are different. BS didn't have Crystal 90 so I used 80 just to plug it in I figured it was close enough just to get built out.

    Also, I'm using Sterling Yeast English Ale Yeast 514 not US04 but again BS didn't have Sterling as a yeast.
  • ceanntceannt
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    I normally mash these at 154.... but this recipe calls for a lot of crystal... way more than I would put in there... so 152 will work just fine

    I would also bump the 5 minute hop addition up to an ounce... but I'm a wild and crazy guy....
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  • jlwjlw
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    ceannt said:

    I normally mash these at 154.... but this recipe calls for a lot of crystal... way more than I would put in there... so 152 will work just fine

    I would also bump the 5 minute hop addition up to an ounce... but I'm a wild and crazy guy....



    Well. I would like to bump the hops but that is all they gave me so ill have to go with that. Unless I can find hops in the freezer
  • ceanntceannt
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    jlw said:

    ceannt said:

    I normally mash these at 154.... but this recipe calls for a lot of crystal... way more than I would put in there... so 152 will work just fine

    I would also bump the 5 minute hop addition up to an ounce... but I'm a wild and crazy guy....



    Well. I would like to bump the hops but that is all they gave me so ill have to go with that. Unless I can find hops in the freezer


    bummer.....
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  • jlwjlw
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    That's the problem with kits, which is why I almost never buy them. But this ESB is being brewed for a friend so in a way I don't exactly care.
  • ceanntceannt
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    It's all good then
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    I normally mash these at 154.... but this recipe calls for a lot of crystal... way more than I would put in there... so 152 will work just fine

    I would also bump the 5 minute hop addition up to an ounce... but I'm a wild and crazy guy....



    agreed on all points.
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  • jlwjlw
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    I have no SG'd in the freezer but I do have

    Magnum
    Goldings3/4 oz (i don't know if they Styrian)
    and some WGV 8 oz

    What would you do?
    @ceannt @fromzwolle
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    I have no SG'd in the freezer but I do have

    Magnum
    Goldings3/4 oz (i don't know if they Styrian)
    and some WGV 8 oz

    What would you do?
    @ceannt @fromzwolle



    wgv goldings!
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  • ceanntceannt
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    WGV! !!!!!!!!
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Late additions ... best aroma hop on the planet
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  • jlwjlw
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    How much and would you add anohter hop addition? Or just add more in at the 5 min?
  • ceanntceannt
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    An ounce to 2 ounces ... between 5 minutes and flameout
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  • jlwjlw
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    I'll make it 2 oz's
  • ceanntceannt
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    jlw said:

    I'll make it 2 oz's



    Kinda figured you would :)
    modern versions lean way more towards bittering additions ... but used to be way more hop forward ....
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Just a thought .... you might want to toss in about 2 ounces of light brown sugar in there (late)... might take the edge off the sweetness of all that crystal
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  • jlwjlw
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    Good idea on the sugar. I don't like all the crystal but they don't tell ou amounts until you get the package.
  • ceanntceannt
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    Yeah .... pretty much ....
    I use a little less than half of what they put in there ......
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    Good idea on the sugar. I don't like all the crystal but they don't tell ou amounts until you get the package.



    one of the reasons i don't do kits. that and the cost.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    Just a thought .... you might want to toss in about 2 ounces of light brown sugar in there (late)... might take the edge off the sweetness of all that crystal



    brown sugar is tasty in beer. do it.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    Just a thought .... you might want to toss in about 2 ounces of light brown sugar in there (late)... might take the edge off the sweetness of all that crystal



    brown sugar is tasty in beer. do it.


    Very tasty ... especially in one of these ....
    you could actually go up to 4 ounces ... but 2 is probably enough at this gravity
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  • jlwjlw
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    The cool thing about these add on's is its now my recipe.
  • ceanntceannt
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    jlw said:

    The cool thing about these add on's is its now my recipe.



    This!
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