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how has this died? keep going..... if you used electric, you may not have to replace the drums as often. especially if you used a few hot water heater elements. We have a wood burning furnace at my house which we use to pre-heat the water going into the hot water heater. other hot water is pumped into a radiator in the duct work that heats the house in the winter. with a bit of plumbing work you could do something like this. and you might even use coal to fire it. the boil of course would have to be done with something else. but you can get it up to about 190F out of the furnace.
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jlw said:
A brewer friend of mine uses two hot water tank elements to do his brewing. Now he is doing 5 gallon batches so you might need more elements if you wanted to go electric.
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not so much in the element... but in the electricity.
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of course cutting and splitting wood isnt cheap either.
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flyfisherwes said:
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flyfisherwes said:flyfisherwes said:
of course cutting and splitting wood isnt cheap either.
correction- its free if you do it yourself. but costs labor.
My time was once worth very little. I was valuing it at about 30cents an hour, but now that I have a job I'm placing it at about $6.47/hr, so electric is looking more and more appealing. Though propane is still an option....
I do like fire.... and I've never electrocuted my self with propane, which is a plus.
Also I need to cut and spit wood for heat next year, so any brewing would add to the amount of this I would need to do. I don't really want to do any, so that would be sucky. -
flyfisherwes said:
how has this died?
Oh, it's far from dead, I'm just drinking too much PBR to keep it going, I'll get something done at some point.... just not right now. -
Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
If you finished this project...... you wouldn't have to drink PBR........
PBR clone!!!! Should be an inexpensive grain and hop bill for 1.5bbl's too.
Sadly, PBR is now the choice of hipsters everywhere. They put a lime in it. -
jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
If you finished this project...... you wouldn't have to drink PBR........
PBR clone!!!! Should be an inexpensive grain and hop bill for 1.5bbl's too.
Sadly, PBR is now the choice of hipsters everywhere. They put a lime in it.
What is the world coming to........Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
Here is the story of how it became the hipster beer...
http://www.quora.com/Beer/How-and-why-did-Pabst-Blue-Ribbon-come-to-be-the-hipster-beer-of-choice -
jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
If you finished this project...... you wouldn't have to drink PBR........
PBR clone!!!! Should be an inexpensive grain and hop bill for 1.5bbl's too.
Sadly, PBR is now the choice of hipsters everywhere. They put a lime in it.
eewww.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
If you finished this project...... you wouldn't have to drink PBR........
PBR clone!!!! Should be an inexpensive grain and hop bill for 1.5bbl's too.
40% corn and dip some blue ribbons in it with the hops.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
If you finished this project...... you wouldn't have to drink PBR........
PBR clone!!!! Should be an inexpensive grain and hop bill for 1.5bbl's too.
Sadly, PBR is now the choice of hipsters everywhere. They put a lime in it.
piff, that's so two thousand and late! PBR isn't ironic anymore, real hipsters reach for; Schlitz, Old Milwaukee, Narragansett, Genissee, Zema, Smirnoff Ice, Key Stone, or better yet: something you've never heard of. It's mostly tools who drink PBR now.... For the price range it is one of the better beers in my book.
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
It's mostly tools who drink PBR now.... For the price range it is one of the better beers in my book.
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I've been enjoying the build. Any closer to a heat source? What about a pile of bricks or cinder blocks to set the barrel on? Could you stuff wood under that? You would even use something like tire rims if you have a good supply of tires for heat source, maybe just remove the rims first, stack a few and place the barrels on them, stuff wood in between.
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themonstermasher said:
So... Did this get forgotten or did this guy die?
HA! Thanks for digging this up. I was thinking about the burner again last night. I've now got a cheap welder which really opens up some possibilities. -
Welders are great. I sure hope the tire fired brewery comes to life.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Lakewood said:
Welders are great. I sure hope the tire fired brewery comes to life.
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Okay so it's been some time, but i've found that my work uses a malt syrup by the pallet and I can get it at cost. So once my hops plants put out (I forget what is what so it'll be a fun blend) I'll have the makings for a really cheap brew. Might do a small partial mash, but not having to make a mash tun will save a lot of water movement.
All I need now is one burner and stand. I'll pick up some cinder blocks next time I"m at the home depot. I'm still not sure if I should use wood, propane, wood pellets, used motor/cooking oil, or gasoline. -
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Okay so it's been some time, but i've found that my work uses a malt syrup by the pallet and I can get it at cost. So once my hops plants put out (I forget what is what so it'll be a fun blend) I'll have the makings for a really cheap brew. Might do a small partial mash, but not having to make a mash tun will save a lot of water movement.
All I need now is one burner and stand. I'll pick up some cinder blocks next time I"m at the home depot. I'm still not sure if I should use wood, propane, wood pellets, used motor/cooking oil, or gasoline.
I would think propane would be the easiest choice. But being redneck... wood pallets or used motor oil would be the responsible choice.
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
Just fire it with dried cow dung
Indian stile, I like that. I don't know about curry in the beer... or it not being alcoholic...
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jlw said:
I would go with the wood pallets and soak in the used motor oil. Especially if you have easy access to both and I think you would for the pallets.
Good call, a rocking stove big enough to burn a pallet cut in thirds would be a great thing to have for many things....
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:jlw said:
I would go with the wood pallets and soak in the used motor oil. Especially if you have easy access to both and I think you would for the pallets.
Good call, a rocking stove big enough to burn a pallet cut in thirds would be a great thing to have for many things....
Multi-purpose!
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jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:jlw said:
I would go with the wood pallets and soak in the used motor oil. Especially if you have easy access to both and I think you would for the pallets.
Good call, a rocking stove big enough to burn a pallet cut in thirds would be a great thing to have for many things....
Multi-purpose!
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:jlw said:
I would go with the wood pallets and soak in the used motor oil. Especially if you have easy access to both and I think you would for the pallets.
Good call, a rocking stove big enough to burn a pallet cut in thirds would be a great thing to have for many things....
Multi-purpose!
I don't know the other purposes yet, but come the zombie take over of 2018 it'll be more clear.
yes. this.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
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It really depends how long they've been dead and how long they've been undead. But I much rather eat brains.... oh crap... are zombies ever self aware of their condition? -
Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
It really depends how long they've been dead and how long they've been undead. But I much rather eat brains.... oh crap... are zombies ever self aware of their condition?
I don't think so. In fact I read somewhere that Hannibal lecter, capture them, tie them down, crack the skull open and scoop brains and sautéed with a nice butter sauce. -
jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
It really depends how long they've been dead and how long they've been undead. But I much rather eat brains.... oh crap... are zombies ever self aware of their condition?
I don't think so. In fact I read somewhere that Hannibal lecter, capture them, tie them down, crack the skull open and scoop brains and sautéed with a nice butter sauce.
gross. butter sauce is way to fattening. i'd go for a drizzle of olive oil and some fresh garden herbs.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
FromZwolle said:jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
It really depends how long they've been dead and how long they've been undead. But I much rather eat brains.... oh crap... are zombies ever self aware of their condition?
I don't think so. In fact I read somewhere that Hannibal lecter, capture them, tie them down, crack the skull open and scoop brains and sautéed with a nice butter sauce.
gross. butter sauce is way to fattening. i'd go for a drizzle of olive oil and some fresh garden herbs.
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:FromZwolle said:jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:ceannt said:
It really depends how long they've been dead and how long they've been undead. But I much rather eat brains.... oh crap... are zombies ever self aware of their condition?
I don't think so. In fact I read somewhere that Hannibal lecter, capture them, tie them down, crack the skull open and scoop brains and sautéed with a nice butter sauce.
gross. butter sauce is way to fattening. i'd go for a drizzle of olive oil and some fresh garden herbs.
With a little dill and a splash of lemon juice or white wine.
mmmmmmm, braaaaiiinzzzzThe pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Red brick, cinder blocks; I was planning on lining the burner with something more fire proof, but does it matter? How hot can red brick get? And if over heated what happens? melt down or crumbly?
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
How hot can red brick get? And if over heated what happens? melt down or crumbly?
not that hot. it cracks and chips.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Dr_Jerryrigger said:
hot enough for a pizza?
yes. it's used around fireplaces/wood burning stoves, so i'm assuming it can handle at least 400F.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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FromZwolle said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
hot enough for a pizza?
yes. it's used around fireplaces/wood burning stoves, so i'm assuming it can handle at least 400F.
usually its fire brick inside a fireplace. it's basically the same stuff though, just doesn't have the variations in thermal expansion that cause internal stresses to build and shoot hot shards of brick in to the faces of those sitting around the fire.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:FromZwolle said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
hot enough for a pizza?
yes. it's used around fireplaces/wood burning stoves, so i'm assuming it can handle at least 400F.
usually its fire brick inside a fireplace. it's basically the same stuff though, just doesn't have the variations in thermal expansion that cause internal stresses to build and shoot hot shards of brick in to the faces of those sitting around the fire.
i said around, not in. like for the hearth. like this:
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Fine, i'll just google it... I guess I may already be the resident "expert" (hack) on refractory martial. I believe real red brick is just a lump of clay, so if heated slowly it would be just find to at least 1800F. Cinder blocks I think are portland cement based so get brittle if ever lifted to 1200F or so. With there shape it would seem the weakness could be engineered around, but a more temp resistant lining would be nice.
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
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jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'll have too price some stuff out
Could you make your own bricks? That's the ticket.
I've gone down that road. It's not worth it unless i've got some good clay for free. I might try digging down a few feet, but it's very unlikely I'm standing on some Tennessee ball clay #4
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'll have too price some stuff out
Could you make your own bricks? That's the ticket.
I've gone down that road. It's not worth it unless i've got some good clay for free. I might try digging down a few feet, but it's very unlikely I'm standing on some Tennessee ball clay #4
You put the clay on what? And you have 4?????
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Things are coming together little by little. Problem is it's way too hot to ferment without temp control. I also want to keep this really redneck. Dig a hole? Chest freezer plus a heap of insulation? Chest freezer plus bucket of antifreeze and a copper coil? It's humid too so swamp coolers won't do much.
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jlw said:
Dig a hole would work really well. If you have a chest freezer tht would probably work e en better if you can figure out how to control temp.
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I guess the freezer works well for drinking too. Once it's in place I won't be able to move it till I drink (or dump) most of it.
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Open head with bung holes. I was thinking plastic, but that's not right, rust is cool. I'll need to clean it with something purple to get the coconut oil film out. But that's not that hard, the top comes off. I wish my carboys worked like that.
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So i'll be boiling next weekend if I get yeast in time. I'm thinking of just getting 5packs of Nottingham to just keep it simple. Anyone have experience with a cheaper dry yeast?
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
So i'll be boiling next weekend if I get yeast in time. I'm thinking of just getting 5packs of Nottingham to just keep it simple. Anyone have experience with a cheaper dry yeast?
I'll just make 20ish gal of high gravity stuff and add water.
s05 is usually cheaper. the coopers or muntons dry yeast is pretty inexpensive. i'm not familiar with how those two ferment, though.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
I thought S05 was a much smaller pack (not an issue for most brews...)
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'd really like to use WLP002, but that would only work if made a 5gal starter.
because making 5 gallons of beer would just be crazy... :|The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
FromZwolle said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'd really like to use WLP002, but that would only work if made a 5gal starter.
because making 5 gallons of beer would just be crazy... :|
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I thought S05 was a much smaller pack (not an issue for most brews...)
I'll have to look into it more. I'd really like to use WLP002, but that would only work if made a 5gal starter.
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jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I thought S05 was a much smaller pack (not an issue for most brews...)
I'll have to look into it more. I'd really like to use WLP002, but that would only work if made a 5gal starter.
Step it up from a small to really large starter.
ie, pitch a vial into 5 gallons of beer. Then pitch that into the big batch. Done and done.
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C_B said:jlw said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I thought S05 was a much smaller pack (not an issue for most brews...)
I'll have to look into it more. I'd really like to use WLP002, but that would only work if made a 5gal starter.
Step it up from a small to really large starter.
ie, pitch a vial into 5 gallons of beer. Then pitch that into the big batch. Done and done.
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I ordered 5 packs of S-05, and 8oz of Norther Brewer hops (they were on sale). Another ~35 bucks on this project, so I'm up to about $70.
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Just think of all the yeast you'll have for a repitch.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Just buy a "brick" of dry yeast ....Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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The little packets are way more $$$$ per ounceNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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Or...... brew a ten gallon batch and just pitch the trubNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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At least you will have it to drink .. ....Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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I'm perry sure the yeast and a half lb or Norther Brewer hops are on my neighbor's front step (I think the postal guy is afraid of my yard).
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'm perry sure the yeast and a half lb or Norther Brewer hops are on my neighbor's front step (I think the postal guy is afraid of my yard).
Ha! It does kinda look like the toxic avenger's shack ..... hey! How about calling your beer ...
The Traumaville brewing company's Toxic Avenger Special Reserve
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ceannt said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'm perry sure the yeast and a half lb or Norther Brewer hops are on my neighbor's front step (I think the postal guy is afraid of my yard).
Ha! It does kinda look like the toxic avenger's shack ..... hey! How about calling your beer ...
The Traumaville brewing company's Toxic Avenger Special Reserve
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Ha! but to complicated:
Ima call ert "drink" -
I think i made a recipe thread I I don't know where that went.
So;
I'll put some oats in this, some unmlated barley, roasted barley, and malt syrup.
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I'm trying to make crystal with unaltered barley. I have no idea if it will work at all so i'm trying a handful before I fill up my largest pan.
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ceannt said:Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'm perry sure the yeast and a half lb or Norther Brewer hops are on my neighbor's front step (I think the postal guy is afraid of my yard).
Ha! It does kinda look like the toxic avenger's shack ..... hey! How about calling your beer ...
The Traumaville brewing company's Toxic Avenger Special Reserve
???
i miss old troma. the newer stuff is really lame.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Dr_Jerryrigger said:
I'm trying to make crystal with unaltered barley. I have no idea if it will work at all so i'm trying a handful before I fill up my largest pan.
Doesn't seem to work that well, next try I'll add some Beano to the soak water
Redneck 1.5bbl brewery