Hefe brew night. Since I lost my last batch to industrial accident
  • jlwjlw
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    I decided to re brew the hefe. The mash was a effing screw up from the get go. Somehow over shot the mash temp by a lot. So I added ice and cooled it down way below 150. After multiple boiling water additions and a pseudo step mash I finally got it up to around 152. Still 2 degrees below target. Bullshit.

    Hope the rest goes better.
  • BenSBenS
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    Good luck. Trying to make a hefe is always a bitch.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    I decided to re brew the hefe. The mash was a effing screw up from the get go. Somehow over shot the mash temp by a lot. So I added ice and cooled it down way below 150. After multiple boiling water additions and a pseudo step mash I finally got it up to around 152. Still 2 degrees below target. Bullshit.

    Hope the rest goes better.



    yep. been there a couple times. it's infuriating! but also a perfect opportunity for a little decoction.
    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • jlwjlw
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    Trying to boil now.
  • BenSBenS
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    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    I decided to re brew the hefe. The mash was a effing screw up from the get go. Somehow over shot the mash temp by a lot. So I added ice and cooled it down way below 150. After multiple boiling water additions and a pseudo step mash I finally got it up to around 152. Still 2 degrees below target. Bullshit.

    Hope the rest goes better.



    yep. been there a couple times. it's infuriating! but also a perfect opportunity for a little decoction.


    I still prefer a big decoction.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    I decocted about 1 quart which wasn't enough cause it didn't raise the temp much. At least the mash was nice and this and easy to work with. :-?
  • jlwjlw
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    BenS said:

    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    I decided to re brew the hefe. The mash was a effing screw up from the get go. Somehow over shot the mash temp by a lot. So I added ice and cooled it down way below 150. After multiple boiling water additions and a pseudo step mash I finally got it up to around 152. Still 2 degrees below target. Bullshit.

    Hope the rest goes better.



    yep. been there a couple times. it's infuriating! but also a perfect opportunity for a little decoction.


    I still prefer a big decoction.


    That's what she said! =D>
  • C_BC_B
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    jlw said:

    I decided to re brew the hefe. The mash was a effing screw up from the get go. Somehow over shot the mash temp by a lot. So I added ice and cooled it down way below 150. After multiple boiling water additions and a pseudo step mash I finally got it up to around 152. Still 2 degrees below target. Bullshit.

    Hope the rest goes better.


    It'll be an excellent beer.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • jlwjlw
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    67% efficiency. really low for me but I guess I'll take it considering the problems.
  • BenSBenS
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    jlw said:

    67% efficiency. really low for me but I guess I'll take it considering the problems.



    It will still be beer right?
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    BenS said:

    jlw said:

    67% efficiency. really low for me but I guess I'll take it considering the problems.



    It will still be beer right?


    Yep. Which is why I don't really care a whole lot about the screw ups. Just venting a bit.
  • jlwjlw
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    Brew day is over. Had to boil longer to hit the og. Ended up at 1.050. All nicely put away in a fermenter and in the ferm chamber which is set for 67 degrees.
  • jlwjlw
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    I like to mute the esters put off by wlp 351.
  • C_BC_B
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    So in the end... Yay beer!!!
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • ceanntceannt
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    C_B said:

    So in the end... Yay beer!!!



    This!
    Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
  • ThymThym
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    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • jlwjlw
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    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    I think I am going to start doing this. I have done this a few times lately. Not sure why I am having so much trouble hit the temp?
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    I think I am going to start doing this. I have done this a few times lately. Not sure why I am having so much trouble hit the temp?


    thermometer issue or misjudged volume?
    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    a little yes. a lot no. last time i did it i was shooting for 154, ended up with 163. oups.
    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • ThymThym
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    FromZwolle said:

    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    a little yes. a lot no. last time i did it i was shooting for 154, ended up with 163. oups.


    Add half a gallon of room temp water and stir and you are back in the 50s, then say feckit. It's gonna be beer.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ceanntceannt
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    Easier to adjust if you overshoot high ...
    Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
  • ceanntceannt
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    Temp differential is greater
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  • jlwjlw
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    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    I think I am going to start doing this. I have done this a few times lately. Not sure why I am having so much trouble hit the temp?


    thermometer issue or misjudged volume?


    I think I just over shot the temp badly. I thought it might be a thermometer issues but I checked it afterwards and it's spot on. Just chalked up to bad brewing. Then I added too much ice to cool down.
  • C_BC_B
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    jlw said:

    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    I think I am going to start doing this. I have done this a few times lately. Not sure why I am having so much trouble hit the temp?


    thermometer issue or misjudged volume?


    I think I just over shot the temp badly. I thought it might be a thermometer issues but I checked it afterwards and it's spot on. Just chalked up to bad brewing. Then I added too much ice to cool down.


    The first time I used my MLT, actually the first all grain mash, I overshot the temp and added ice. Went from 165 to 130 something. Oups. Never used ice again.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    jlw said:

    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    I think I am going to start doing this. I have done this a few times lately. Not sure why I am having so much trouble hit the temp?


    thermometer issue or misjudged volume?


    I think I just over shot the temp badly. I thought it might be a thermometer issues but I checked it afterwards and it's spot on. Just chalked up to bad brewing. Then I added too much ice to cool down.


    The first time I used my MLT, actually the first all grain mash, I overshot the temp and added ice. Went from 165 to 130 something. Oups. Never used ice again.


    Ice really has no place in brewing. Unless you are making bud light ice. Then you suck and you have no place in brewing.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • jlwjlw
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    Lakewood said:

    C_B said:

    jlw said:

    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    Lakewood said:

    This is why if I overshoot mash temps I stir a little and just ride it out.



    I think I am going to start doing this. I have done this a few times lately. Not sure why I am having so much trouble hit the temp?


    thermometer issue or misjudged volume?


    I think I just over shot the temp badly. I thought it might be a thermometer issues but I checked it afterwards and it's spot on. Just chalked up to bad brewing. Then I added too much ice to cool down.


    The first time I used my MLT, actually the first all grain mash, I overshot the temp and added ice. Went from 165 to 130 something. Oups. Never used ice again.


    Ice really has no place in brewing. Unless you are making bud light ice. Then you suck and you have no place in brewing.


    :((
  • morsmors
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    If I use my cooler mash tun vs my direct fired mash I typically err on the side of undershooting.... and at the same time I always have a gallon or so of boiling water that I use to bring the temp up if necessary.
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  • C_BC_B
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    mors said:

    If I use my cooler mash tun vs my direct fired mash I typically err on the side of undershooting.... and at the same time I always have a gallon or so of boiling water that I use to bring the temp up if necessary.


    Interesting... I do exactly the opposite. I over shoot the strike temp by 5-8*. Dump in the MLT and put the lid on. Come back 10 minutes later. As long as the temp is 1-2* above strike temp I dough in. Stir stir stir and put the lid on. Come back after 5 minutes and check the temp. If anything, I'll be high and I can stir for a minute dropping the temp a degree or two. Rarely do I miss by more than a degree.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
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