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Think I am going to try this as my next brew (when I get the chance).
My plan will be to try out a Turbid mash for the first time.
35% --- Pilsen
35% --- Belgian Pale Malt
12% --- White Wheat
7% --- Biscuit Malt
5% --- Crystal 120L
5% --- Dark Candi Sugar (15 min)
2.5% --- Torrified wheat
0.5 oz Northern Brewer (9.4%aa) FHW
0.5 oz Northern Brewer (9.4%aa) 30 min
Yeast --- WLP550
(will start ferm temp at 67 degrees and increase to 72 over first four days).
Was also considering using yeast taken from a bottle of SN Ovila.
Now that I think about, I also have some PranQster dregs. Ugh, now I am going to be going back and forth on yeast. I could split it up I guess.
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I just had my first PranQster. Not sure I (personal opinion here) would want that yeast profile. A bit too much orange I think? Now, changing up the grain/hops bill could compensate for that....
I am interested to know that PranQster has yeast in the bottle though..."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
C_B said:
I just had my first PranQster. Not sure I (personal opinion here) would want that yeast profile. A bit too much orange I think? Now, changing up the grain/hops bill could compensate for that....
I am interested to know that PranQster has yeast in the bottle though...
To clarify, the orange I mean is citrus. The aftertaste is like a children's chewable for me."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
Pranqster does have a yeast sediment. I read somewhere they actually use two different yeasts, and they use the same yeast at bottling.
Looking through my bottle dregs I also have some Allagash White dregs.
Have you ever used WLP550? I am looking for a belgian strain that has a spicy (or peppery) character to it. I guess I am trying stay away from a more fruity character.
Any suggestions from anyone on belgian strains they've tried would be much appreciated. I've got a good saison yeast...
Hmmm, saison yeast in a dubbel?Amigo, lay them raises down. -
first off, let me say, this has got to be in my top 10 for beer names. i would buy this by the truck load just based on the name.
anyway, my experience with the WL belgian strains has been limited to the WLP500 primarily. The 550 claims to be a more spicy/peppery cousin to the 500 which tends to be fruity.
I like the idea of the 550 in this beer.
You didn't state you target OG / FG for this brew.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Evan_B said:
Pranqster does have a yeast sediment. I read somewhere they actually use two different yeasts, and they use the same yeast at bottling.
Looking through my bottle dregs I also have some Allagash White dregs.
Have you ever used WLP550? I am looking for a belgian strain that has a spicy (or peppery) character to it. I guess I am trying stay away from a more fruity character.
Any suggestions from anyone on belgian strains they've tried would be much appreciated. I've got a good saison yeast...
Hmmm, saison yeast in a dubbel?
I have not tried either of the White Labs Belgian strains.
However, I prefer fruity to spicy/peppery. So there's that.
I'll defer to Lake on the Belgian topic."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
yeah, i think 550 would work really well in this. really well. and the name fits.
where's my truck load?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
yeah, i think 550 would work really well in this. really well. and the name fits.
where's my truck load?
I need to brew it first! Also, "truck load" will have a loose interpretation.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
yeah, i think 550 would work really well in this. really well. and the name fits.
where's my truck load?
I need to brew it first! Also, "truck load" will have a loose interpretation.
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Evan_B said:
Pranqster does have a yeast sediment. I read somewhere they actually use two different yeasts, and they use the same yeast at bottling.
Looking through my bottle dregs I also have some Allagash White dregs.
Have you ever used WLP550? I am looking for a belgian strain that has a spicy (or peppery) character to it. I guess I am trying stay away from a more fruity character.
Any suggestions from anyone on belgian strains they've tried would be much appreciated. I've got a good saison yeast...
Hmmm, saison yeast in a dubbel?
T-58.
http://www.fermentis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SFBT58.pdf
nice and peppery.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Some suggestions ....
Mash low for attenuation ...
Pick up one of the "big" bottles of Chimey Red ....
It is the most recognized version of the style ... and will let you know what you are shooting for .... also, you can culture the yeastNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
FromZwolle said:
ignore the old man. i like a little body in a dubbel.
Ha! So do I ... but I am a firm believer that the first time you brew a new style to do it as traditionally and as close to "on style" as you can .... so you understand it .... then tweak it to taste on subsequent batchesNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
ignore the old man. i like a little body in a dubbel.
Ha! So do I ... but I am a firm believer that the first time you brew a new style to do it as traditionally and as close to "on style" as you can .... so you understand it .... then tweak it to taste on subsequent batches
In the spirit of traditionalism I am planning a Turbid mash, which was used until 1885, while Belgian breweries were taxed based on the size of their mash tun. The result was brewers keeping very small tuns and using the very very very very very thick turbid mash.
Turbid mashes are still practiced among some Lambic brewers, as the turbid mash provides the wort with some proteins and longer polysaccharide chains for the wild yeast and bacteria to chew on.
FromZwolle said:ignore the old man. i like a little body in a dubbel.
Ditto
ceannt said:BTW .... I freaking love the name you came up with for this!
At some point I will have to design a recipe as this one's "evil twin" and name it Oculus dexter.
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Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
yeah, i think 550 would work really well in this. really well. and the name fits.
where's my truck load?
I need to brew it first! Also, "truck load" will have a loose interpretation.
Hahaha, thats what I was thinking. I shouldn't have a problem filling that truck.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
yeah, i think 550 would work really well in this. really well. and the name fits.
where's my truck load?
I need to brew it first! Also, "truck load" will have a loose interpretation.
Hahaha, thats what I was thinking. I shouldn't have a problem filling that truck.
yeah, i remember you are into the small batches. How big is your fermenter again? 11oz?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Oculus sinister is the medical term for the left eye. I read it one day and immediately thought it had to be a beer name.
I knew I forgot something...
3.25 gal batch
OG - 1.068
FG - 1.010 (ideally)
Haven't actually done the math for the IBUs yet, but am shooting for a BU:GU ratio of 0.3
yeah, i think 550 would work really well in this. really well. and the name fits.
where's my truck load?
I need to brew it first! Also, "truck load" will have a loose interpretation.
Hahaha, thats what I was thinking. I shouldn't have a problem filling that truck.
yeah, i remember you are into the small batches. How big is your fermenter again? 11oz?
I have actually been able to move up in the world. Growlette - 32 ounces, woot woot!!!!Amigo, lay them raises down. -
ceannt said:
I love that you are doing a Turbid mash on this... only suggesting you keep the temp down in the 149 or so range
Being the first time trying a turbid mash, I am sure my temps will be swinging wildly somewhere between 190 and 55. I am going to TRY and hold my sacch. rest at 149-150.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:ceannt said:
I love that you are doing a Turbid mash on this... only suggesting you keep the temp down in the 149 or so range
Being the first time trying a turbid mash, I am sure my temps will be swinging wildly somewhere between 190 and 55. I am going to TRY and hold my sacch. rest at 149-150.
that
is
funnyNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
I would really like to know what this style was like originally.... it is the only one of the "Trappist" styles that existed prior to WWII... and goes way, way back....
there was a lot of Scottish influence in brewing in Belgium in those days, and I'll bet it bore little resemblance to the modern version... probably had a great deal more body, and I would almost bet that it didn't depend on added sugars at all....
but all I need is another research project.......... so I'll leave it to othersNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
ceannt said:
I would really like to know what this style was like originally.... it is the only one of the "Trappist" styles that existed prior to WWII... and goes way, way back....
there was a lot of Scottish influence in brewing in Belgium in those days, and I'll bet it bore little resemblance to the modern version... probably had a great deal more body, and I would almost bet that it didn't depend on added sugars at all....
but all I need is another research project.......... so I'll leave it to others
I am pretty interested in this as well. Since reading Brew Like a Monk I have been pretty obsessed with belgian beer, but more specifically, Beglian brewing. In the spirit of "brewing like a monk" I am going to try and make my own candi sugar. My next read will be Farmhouse ales, and then Wild Brews to round out that series.
I am really interested in all the tradition of belgian brewing... it helps that I like the beer too.
and stir often...Amigo, lay them raises down. -
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FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
There you go! Do it ....
you might want to consider going with bigger equipment first though .......Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
ceannt said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
There you go! Do it ....
you might want to consider going with bigger equipment first though .......
Haha. I am going to stick with my small batches for now. I need more practice. Maybe one day. For now I am perfectly happy doing this.
On a semi-related note, Saturday will be my first day at my new job, at my LHBS! So now I can get lots of practice.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
that would be quite the spectacle.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
FromZwolle said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
that would be quite the spectacle.
haha!Amigo, lay them raises down. -
FromZwolle said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
that would be quite the spectacle.
:-w"On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
C_B said:FromZwolle said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
that would be quite the spectacle.
:-w
had to.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Evan_B said:ceannt said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
There you go! Do it ....
you might want to consider going with bigger equipment first though .......
Haha. I am going to stick with my small batches for now. I need more practice. Maybe one day. For now I am perfectly happy doing this.
On a semi-related note, Saturday will be my first day at my new job, at my LHBS! So now I can get lots of practice.
congrats on the new jobThe only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
There you go! Do it ....
you might want to consider going with bigger equipment first though .......
Haha. I am going to stick with my small batches for now. I need more practice. Maybe one day. For now I am perfectly happy doing this.
On a semi-related note, Saturday will be my first day at my new job, at my LHBS! So now I can get lots of practice.
congrats on the new job
Yeah, about that... Pretty much right after I typed that I got a call saying things might not work out for financial reasons. Also my last day at my current job is this Friday. It looks like I'll have a lot of free time on my hands in the very near future.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Lakewood said:
if you can set up a drill motor with a motar mixer you could continuously mix this mash
That's a really good idea! I might try to rig something up. I'm worried about large drops in temperature with continuous stirring though. Is this a concern with the cooler mash tuns?Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:Evan_B said:ceannt said:FromZwolle said:
Ha!
that would be "black eye " as appropriate for a stout .....
One could just do an entire "eye" themed brewery. Oculus Brewery Works, and name every beer Oculus ______
There you go! Do it ....
you might want to consider going with bigger equipment first though .......
Haha. I am going to stick with my small batches for now. I need more practice. Maybe one day. For now I am perfectly happy doing this.
On a semi-related note, Saturday will be my first day at my new job, at my LHBS! So now I can get lots of practice.
congrats on the new job
Yeah, about that... Pretty much right after I typed that I got a call saying things might not work out for financial reasons. Also my last day at my current job is this Friday. It looks like I'll have a lot of free time on my hands in the very near future.
oh.. duece... sorry to hear that. i mean, free time rocks, but ...
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
if you can set up a drill motor with a motar mixer you could continuously mix this mash
That's a really good idea! I might try to rig something up. I'm worried about large drops in temperature with continuous stirring though. Is this a concern with the cooler mash tuns?
seal it up tight. run the mortar mixer shaft through a hole in the top of the cooler. and mount the drill motor to the top. heat loss shouldn't be bad.
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
if you can set up a drill motor with a motar mixer you could continuously mix this mash
That's a really good idea! I might try to rig something up. I'm worried about large drops in temperature with continuous stirring though. Is this a concern with the cooler mash tuns?
seal it up tight. run the mortar mixer shaft through a hole in the top of the cooler. and mount the drill motor to the top. heat loss shouldn't be bad.
Oh nice. That's a good point. This could come in handy too cause I want to try the turbid mash with other styles, specifically lower gravity beers increase body and complexity. I came up with a recipe for a session CDA I was hoping to turbid mash as well. Thanks for the idea!Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
if you can set up a drill motor with a motar mixer you could continuously mix this mash
That's a really good idea! I might try to rig something up. I'm worried about large drops in temperature with continuous stirring though. Is this a concern with the cooler mash tuns?
seal it up tight. run the mortar mixer shaft through a hole in the top of the cooler. and mount the drill motor to the top. heat loss shouldn't be bad.
Oh nice. That's a good point. This could come in handy too cause I want to try the turbid mash with other styles, specifically lower gravity beers increase body and complexity. I came up with a recipe for a session CDA I was hoping to turbid mash as well. Thanks for the idea!
i look forward to seeing how you set it up. i have been thinking about this for several year but never got around to actually building anything.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Evan_B said:
Where did you find that?
it's $10 at home depot.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/QEP-Thinset-and-Grout-Mixer-75001/100124563#.UdT7TvmSqSoThe only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:
the one i have is round bar stock instead of the twisted flat stock. if they still carry the round bar version i would go that route. it's strong enough to withstand anything you could throw at it.
$10?! Awesome, thanks for that. I'll be checking it out tomorrow probably.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
the one i have is round bar stock instead of the twisted flat stock. if they still carry the round bar version i would go that route. it's strong enough to withstand anything you could throw at it.
$10?! Awesome, thanks for that. I'll be checking it out tomorrow probably.
cool. build thread!
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
the one i have is round bar stock instead of the twisted flat stock. if they still carry the round bar version i would go that route. it's strong enough to withstand anything you could throw at it.
$10?! Awesome, thanks for that. I'll be checking it out tomorrow probably.
cool. build thread!
I've already got a bunch of ideas for this thing, but I am going to see if they are plausible before I go posting them, haha.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
the one i have is round bar stock instead of the twisted flat stock. if they still carry the round bar version i would go that route. it's strong enough to withstand anything you could throw at it.
$10?! Awesome, thanks for that. I'll be checking it out tomorrow probably.
cool. build thread!
I've already got a bunch of ideas for this thing, but I am going to see if they are plausible before I go posting them, haha.
no way. just post. crazy, impossible ideas are wayyy better than no ideas. plus the will usually lead to something plausible.
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
the one i have is round bar stock instead of the twisted flat stock. if they still carry the round bar version i would go that route. it's strong enough to withstand anything you could throw at it.
$10?! Awesome, thanks for that. I'll be checking it out tomorrow probably.
cool. build thread!
I've already got a bunch of ideas for this thing, but I am going to see if they are plausible before I go posting them, haha.
no way. just post. crazy, impossible ideas are wayyy better than no ideas. plus the will usually lead to something plausible.
This."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
Well if I'm doing a traditional turbid mash I need a stuykmanden, which is a colander like thing to help draw off the turbid wort. Of course I could just use a colander, but if I'm going to have the grout mixer in there as well I don't want to taking it out and putting it in a whole bunch.
If I can find a round, flat colander thing (a pizza pan with a bunch of holes drilled in it is the first thing that came to mind) I could run the shaft of the mixer through the middle of the flat colander, keep the whole device in the tun, it would make things a little easier.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:
Well if I'm doing a traditional turbid mash I need a stuykmanden, which is a colander like thing to help draw off the turbid wort. Of course I could just use a colander, but if I'm going to have the grout mixer in there as well I don't want to taking it out and putting it in a whole bunch.
If I can find a round, flat colander thing (a pizza pan with a bunch of holes drilled in it is the first thing that came to mind) I could run the shaft of the mixer through the middle of the flat colander, keep the whole device in the tun, it would make things a little easier.
hmm.. for that im thinking something more along the lines of the later versions where you use pipe to draw the turbid portion... like a large diameter copper pipe with large holes drilled down the sides and a piece of screening material inside the tube.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Well if I'm doing a traditional turbid mash I need a stuykmanden, which is a colander like thing to help draw off the turbid wort. Of course I could just use a colander, but if I'm going to have the grout mixer in there as well I don't want to taking it out and putting it in a whole bunch.
If I can find a round, flat colander thing (a pizza pan with a bunch of holes drilled in it is the first thing that came to mind) I could run the shaft of the mixer through the middle of the flat colander, keep the whole device in the tun, it would make things a little easier.
hmm.. for that im thinking something more along the lines of the later versions where you use pipe to draw the turbid portion... like a large diameter copper pipe with large holes drilled down the sides and a piece of screening material inside the tube.
How large of a diameter copper pipe are you thinking?Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
Well if I'm doing a traditional turbid mash I need a stuykmanden, which is a colander like thing to help draw off the turbid wort. Of course I could just use a colander, but if I'm going to have the grout mixer in there as well I don't want to taking it out and putting it in a whole bunch.
If I can find a round, flat colander thing (a pizza pan with a bunch of holes drilled in it is the first thing that came to mind) I could run the shaft of the mixer through the middle of the flat colander, keep the whole device in the tun, it would make things a little easier.
hmm.. for that im thinking something more along the lines of the later versions where you use pipe to draw the turbid portion... like a large diameter copper pipe with large holes drilled down the sides and a piece of screening material inside the tube.
How large of a diameter copper pipe are you thinking?
as large as you can reasonably afford, no smaller than 1" but preferably 2". much larger and it would be hard to stick in and move around. to want something you can stick in, draw what you can from the spot, then move it somewhere else. siphon out of the pipe with a small diameter hose.
just get a 2' length and a cap. then drill the shit out of it.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
I think I understand. Kind of like a single tiered copper manifold that I can plunge into the mash, seperating the wort from grain? That would be pretty cool, and I like making things out of copper now that I've done it once, haha. I'm going to spend some time wandering around the hardware store sometime soon looking for ideas. I don't know if I have seen that big of copper tubing, but then again, I wasn't really looking.
What I was thinking with the large, flat, round piece would essentially work like a false bottom, but on top the mash -- a false top? All I would do is press the false top into the mash allowing wort to collect on the top with any grain. I feel like my first explanation sucked.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:
I think I understand. Kind of like a single tiered copper manifold that I can plunge into the mash, seperating the wort from grain? That would be pretty cool, and I like making things out of copper now that I've done it once, haha. I'm going to spend some time wandering around the hardware store sometime soon looking for ideas. I don't know if I have seen that big of copper tubing, but then again, I wasn't really looking.
What I was thinking with the large, flat, round piece would essentially work like a false bottom, but on top the mash -- a false top? All I would do is press the false top into the mash allowing wort to collect on the top with any grain. I feel like my first explanation sucked.
no, your explanation worked, i'm just thinking that will be harder to operate effectively. it'll be a bit more complicated to make, and to use too. since you'll need some way to press down on a large plate, while keeping body parts out of the wort and the grain from migrating around the edges or through the center if you are leaving the mixer in place.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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3 inch http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3-COPPER-PIPE-TYPE-L-HARD-DRAWN-BY-THE-INCH-CUSTOM-SIZES-/330931853016
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
I think I understand. Kind of like a single tiered copper manifold that I can plunge into the mash, seperating the wort from grain? That would be pretty cool, and I like making things out of copper now that I've done it once, haha. I'm going to spend some time wandering around the hardware store sometime soon looking for ideas. I don't know if I have seen that big of copper tubing, but then again, I wasn't really looking.
What I was thinking with the large, flat, round piece would essentially work like a false bottom, but on top the mash -- a false top? All I would do is press the false top into the mash allowing wort to collect on the top with any grain. I feel like my first explanation sucked.
no, your explanation worked, i'm just thinking that will be harder to operate effectively. it'll be a bit more complicated to make, and to use too. since you'll need some way to press down on a large plate, while keeping body parts out of the wort and the grain from migrating around the edges or through the center if you are leaving the mixer in place.
Good point, haha.Lakewood said:as far as big copper, 1" is readily available, but i've even seen 4" copper tubing at home depot. it's crazy expensive though.
Well I'm going to have lots of free time here soon, and get the feeling the peeps at home
Depot are going to get to know me pretty well.
4"? Holy crap. I could make an actual copper mash tun out of that.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Evan_B said:Lakewood said:Evan_B said:
I think I understand. Kind of like a single tiered copper manifold that I can plunge into the mash, seperating the wort from grain? That would be pretty cool, and I like making things out of copper now that I've done it once, haha. I'm going to spend some time wandering around the hardware store sometime soon looking for ideas. I don't know if I have seen that big of copper tubing, but then again, I wasn't really looking.
What I was thinking with the large, flat, round piece would essentially work like a false bottom, but on top the mash -- a false top? All I would do is press the false top into the mash allowing wort to collect on the top with any grain. I feel like my first explanation sucked.
no, your explanation worked, i'm just thinking that will be harder to operate effectively. it'll be a bit more complicated to make, and to use too. since you'll need some way to press down on a large plate, while keeping body parts out of the wort and the grain from migrating around the edges or through the center if you are leaving the mixer in place.
Good point, haha.Lakewood said:as far as big copper, 1" is readily available, but i've even seen 4" copper tubing at home depot. it's crazy expensive though.
Well I'm going to have lots of free time here soon, and get the feeling the peeps at home
Depot are going to get to know me pretty well.
4"? Holy crap. I could make an actual copper mash tun out of that.
the price goes nuts as you go over 3"The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Lakewood said:
here's 6" copper .....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Inch-Type-L-Copper-Pipe-By-the-Inch-/130442268667
$13 per inch?! Not to mention the $14 dollars shipping.
Seriously, $14 shipping for an inch of copper tube you just paid $13 for...
That is absurd.Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:Lakewood said:
here's 6" copper .....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Inch-Type-L-Copper-Pipe-By-the-Inch-/130442268667
$13 per inch?! Not to mention the $14 dollars shipping.
Seriously, $14 shipping for an inch of copper tube you just paid $13 for...
That is absurd.
yes. yes it is.
The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
The mesh pencil cup is a good idea. I was also looking at a wider (but also shorter) paper clip cup made of the same mesh.
At the same time I am not completely ready to give up on the pan idea. What do you think about a cake pan with high side walls. Could drill a bunch of small holes into the bottom.
My thinking behind a pan vs the thiner copper/mesh tube is ease of drawing off the turbid wort. Maybe I should ask beforehand, is there any benefit of siphoning off the turbid mash instead of just scooping it up with a measuring cup/ ladle?
Amigo, lay them raises down. -
Evan_B said:
The mesh pencil cup is a good idea. I was also looking at a wider (but also shorter) paper clip cup made of the same mesh.
At the same time I am not completely ready to give up on the pan idea. What do you think about a cake pan with high side walls. Could drill a bunch of small holes into the bottom.
My thinking behind a pan vs the thiner copper/mesh tube is ease of drawing off the turbid wort. Maybe I should ask beforehand, is there any benefit of siphoning off the turbid mash instead of just scooping it up with a measuring cup/ ladle?
Siphoning lends itself to pumping in the future. Scooping is a manual process that will only last as long as you put up with it.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Evan_B said:
Maybe I should ask beforehand, is there any benefit of siphoning off the turbid mash instead of just scooping it up with a measuring cup/ ladle?
for your volumes, certainly not. for a ten gallon batch, siphon would be clear winner.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
FromZwolle said:
perfect. looks like it would be really easy to clamp a siphon tube onto that handle too.
Oh good call. I didn't think about clamping it on there."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
C_B said:Evan_B said:
Im really mad I won't be able to use any of this for at least two more weeks.
Yeah that's a bummer, that's a really nice fence.
Ugh. I can't wait to see what character and complexity it adds to the beer. Wine barrel aged? No thanks, I'll take that fence aged dubbel!
Amigo, lay them raises down.
Oculus Sinister - Belgian Dubbel
