CiderBomb! How far will it go?
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Only when the ABV gets stupid like this does it need to rest so long.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    most cider made from fresh pressed juice is still aged a year though. it doesn't have to be, its delicious after 3 months, but after a year it's groin grabbingly delicious.
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    Is that the MSM equivalent of panty dropper.
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    Benvarine said:

    Is that the MSM equivalent of panty dropper.



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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    This thing seems stuck. It's still at 1.020 after a transfer, Notty repitch, ec-1118 pitch, O2, and ec-1118 repitch. I might cold crash, transfer, oxygenate, and pitch 1118 once again.
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  • ThymThym
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    im not a cider wine guy so i freely admit you should probably disregard my opinion, but since i have one, i'll share it.

    i would be hesistant to over oxygenate this monster, at this point if it doesnt kick off and you have to just age it out the extra o2 is going to present an issue.

    and second thought is this: if i were grabbing at straws the last one i'd reach for would be to pitch a vigorously fermenting EC1118 starter in there, or better yet, slowly go the other way, get a starter going vigorously, then add your nearly finished cider to the fermenting starter a bit at a time, maybe 2 cups per day and see if that doesnt just chomp on the last bit of sugar in there.

    of course you have to deal with multiple transfers and all that, but i think that is your absolute best chance of cleaning this one up.

    that's my two cents.

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    Lakewood said:

    im not a cider wine guy so i freely admit you should probably disregard my opinion, but since i have one, i'll share it.

    i would be hesistant to over oxygenate this monster, at this point if it doesnt kick off and you have to just age it out the extra o2 is going to present an issue.

    and second thought is this: if i were grabbing at straws the last one i'd reach for would be to pitch a vigorously fermenting EC1118 starter in there, or better yet, slowly go the other way, get a starter going vigorously, then add your nearly finished cider to the fermenting starter a bit at a time, maybe 2 cups per day and see if that doesnt just chomp on the last bit of sugar in there.

    of course you have to deal with multiple transfers and all that, but i think that is your absolute best chance of cleaning this one up.

    that's my two cents.

    *yes, im still thinking like a brewer...



    I'm with you on this one. At least the oxygenate more part of it.

    I've read about guys adding the stuck part back to an actively fermenting "starter". But those were beers.
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    use apple juice for the starter?
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Pitch some distillers yeast,.... And I will now await @frydogbrews smack down
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    i wouldn't go turbo yeast yet (or ever)

    i had one that i had to re-pitch ec1118 three times before it finally took back off (and that was using 2 packets at each pitch.

    that spent 2-3 months stuck like a chump.

    stop adding air at this point, the 02 level should be fine until it restarts.
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I got back on this project yesterday. Three packets of EC-1118 spun individually in 600ml of apple juice each for 12 hours or so each (until they showed some foamy activity) and subsequently pitched. Most of the yeast settled down to the bottom fairly quickly, but there is a small amount of activity on the surface and it is making some positive pressure. Good signs.
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    Yay!
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    How does it look this morning jeep?
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    ceannt said:

    How does it look this morning jeep?



    I'd 'ave to get outta me bed. Mayhap I will when this curvy lass decides to leave me.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    How does it look this morning jeep?



    I'd 'ave to get outta me bed. Mayhap I will when this curvy lass decides to leave me.


    you make me laugh
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    And same as last night. Light foamy yeast raft type stuff.
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    I were hopin' that mayhap ye'd be sayin' that it were belchin' forth gasses like a sailor after too much drink
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I've not a ideal solution fer a bubbler with me thermowell. Just loosely capped at the moment.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    This is what we have at the moment. Looking closely I could see little tiny co2 bubbles.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    lookin good. that's all the activity you see most of the time with wine. especially in your situation with that beast.
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    Looks to have fallen a point or two. Good news!
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    Yay!
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Looks to have fallen a point or two. Good news!



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    FromZwolle said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Looks to have fallen a point or two. Good news!



    like my IQ every six months. :(

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    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Looks to have fallen a point or two. Good news!



    like my IQ every six months. :(

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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Looks to have fallen a point or two. Good news!



    like my IQ every six months. :(

    Don't limit yourself ....


    thank you, Oprah. L-)


    Your welcome .....


    It drops 5 points a week ......
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    I check on it every time your foil hat slips ....
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Approaching 1.010
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Approaching 1.010



    dry-dry-dry
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  • ThymThym
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    glad the krausen pitch worked
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Approaching 1.010



    Sweet!
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    should keep dropping.
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Looks like its taking a break around 1.010SG. I'm gonna let it be and do what it will for itself.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?
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    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?


    I figured it would be difficult to calculate out.... since all the fermentables didn't go in at once, and you couln't get a "real" O.G.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I measured the Brix of the juice and concentrate separately. That way I had a measured OG and could figure how many Brix per volume I added each time.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    I measured the Brix of the juice and concentrate separately. That way I had a measured OG and could figure how many Brix per volume I added each time.



    I never would have thought to do that ....
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?


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    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?


    Fire water!


    It will be after he puts it in the freezer
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    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?


    Fire water!


    It will be after he puts it in the freezer


    Isn't that illegal again???
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?


    Fire water!


    It will be after he puts it in the freezer


    Isn't that illegal again???


    Shhhhh ....
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Just the apple version of an Eisbock ...
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?


    Fire water!


    It will be after he puts it in the freezer


    Isn't that illegal again???


    extremely cold storage? certainly not. it's a great way to preserve things.
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    Just say you are lagering or crash chilling ....
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    1.004
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    clear or still cloudy?
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    and what's it taste like? i like my ciders slightly sweet.
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  • BenSBenS
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    FromZwolle said:

    and what's it taste like? i like my ciders slightly sweet.



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    FromZwolle said:

    and what's it taste like? i like my ciders slightly sweet.


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    FromZwolle said:

    clear or still cloudy?



    Clear
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    FromZwolle said:

    and what's it taste like? i like my ciders slightly sweet.



    I don't know. Just reading the hydrometer that's hanging out in the fermenter.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    It might be at the point where I start adding concentrate one can at a time until it finishes sweet.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    It might be at the point where I start adding concentrate one can at a time until it finishes sweet.



    Do it. Make sure to thaw it first. Ha!
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    When it was really chugging I kept a rotation of cans going from freezer to fridge to fermenter.
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    Any idea where the abv landed?

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    C_B said:

    Any idea where the abv landed?



    This, I have silently been reading along all this time.....

    Soooooo???
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  • C_BC_B
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    1.008 with extremely slow, yet noticeable activity. Gonna pull the thermowell and put on an honest airlock tonight.



    cool... going to be a dry one... wonder what the apv is?


    It's been too long since I've worked out the math. I have notes somewhere. ~17%?

    Reading back...
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Long time, no nothing. I cleaned up the fridge and added what should be the last can of concentrate. It's at 1.010 or thereabouts. I will not be making any efforts to restart fermentation.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Ok, from the beginning...

    If anyone wants to figure the math I took Brix measurements in the beginning.

    1/2 gallon juice=12 Brix
    +12 oz concentrate=16 Brix
    +1/2 gallon juice=13.5 Brix
    +12 oz concentrate=16.5 Brix
    +1/2 gallon juice=no measurement(should be around 14 Brix?)
    +24 oz concentrate=18.5 Brix
    +1/2 gallon juice=17 Brix
    +24 oz concentrate=20.5 Brix

    I thought all of that to reasonably close to being correct, but I list OG at yeast pitch to be 1.070 or ~18.3 Brix...

    Anyway, I'll spare you the timeline and just say that I've added what I count to be twenty-one 12 oz cans of concentrate along with some transfers, energizer and nutrient additions, as well as some additional yeast pitches while slowly ramping up the temperature. I was able to keep the gravity around 1.030 most of the time, but once it really got rolling I couldn't keep it much above 1.010 for a day. The 21st can, which brings the total up to 27 cans including the initial 6, was added tonight to bring the resident hydrometer up to 1.010 again.
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    I like math and all, but I'm too drunk on my own math.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    easier to figure out if you just subract 1.010 from whatever gravity you would get from the 324 ounces (27X12oz) of concentrate added to whatever volume you ended up with.
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    Damn!!!
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Ok, I finally transferred it off the yeast into a 5G carboy. I tasted a bit from the racking cane. It's still hot, imagine that. Here's a pic for reference. Ciderbomb in the middle, Apfelwein to the right, and that's starsan to the left.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Ok, I finally transferred it off the yeast into a 5G carboy. I tasted a bit from the racking cane. It's still hot, imagine that. Here's a pic for reference. Ciderbomb in the middle, Apfelwein to the right, and that's starsan to the left.



    as much booze as there is in that thing its gonna be a miracle if it smooths out too far.
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    Wow. So now you're going to age it for a couple decades?
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    Yeah, I'll probably top it up with the Apfelwein, bung it, and hide it.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Put that stuff under a strong magnetic field

    If it were legal, I would suggest running it through a still
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    ceannt said:

    Put that stuff under a strong magnetic field

    If it were legal, I would suggest running it through a still



    My cost would go up significantly. It already cost way too much for 5 gallons. What would it yield? 1/2 gallon?
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    Put that stuff under a strong magnetic field

    If it were legal, I would suggest running it through a still



    My cost would go up significantly. It already cost way too much for 5 gallons. What would it yield? 1/2 gallon?


    And the whole thing would probably taste like tails and make you blind.
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    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    ceannt said:

    Put that stuff under a strong magnetic field

    If it were legal, I would suggest running it through a still



    My cost would go up significantly. It already cost way too much for 5 gallons. What would it yield? 1/2 gallon?


    And the whole thing would probably taste like tails and make you blind.


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    I think Obama needs to expand the provisions of the Homebrew Act or whatever it was called. Distilling appeals to the scientist in me and I'm sure many others who homebrew. With all of the craft distilleries popping up around here I can buy all varieties of "moonshine" with much less expense than setting up and operating a still. Oh yeah, on top of being expensive it's illegal, very illegal.
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    i'd gladly give it a try if it were legal.
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    Lakewood said:

    i'd gladly give it a try if it were legal.



    True dat. Just think of all the equipment we would all rush out and buy. It would boost the economy!
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    actually really easy.... and pretty cheap on a small scale.... one trip to the home despot, and yer all set...
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Well, I finally really tasted it. I got a lot of caramel and vanilla, but not much apple. Now I'm a little more interested on what extended aging will do for this.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Well, I finally really tasted it. I got a lot of caramel and vanilla, but not much apple. Now I'm a little more interested on what extended aging will do for this.



    How dry is it?
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Well, I finally really tasted it. I got a lot of caramel and vanilla, but not much apple. Now I'm a little more interested on what extended aging will do for this.



    How dry is it?

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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I think it finished at 1.010
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    I think it finished at 1.010



    That doesn't mean it's done, it means it's time to add more juice! Maybe some ec-1118 too.
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    No, it's done.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    No, it's done.



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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I mean, if I had the permits and dollars to vacuum distill it to lower the alcohol without harming the flavor to be able to add the alcohol back in later.... No, I aerated and added nutrients and let this thing burp a couple times a day for a long time to get this far. I'm quitting.
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    Are you still just using the notty?
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    I mean, if I had the permits and dollars to vacuum distill it to lower the alcohol without harming the flavor to be able to add the alcohol back in later.... No, I aerated and added nutrients and let this thing burp a couple times a day for a long time to get this far. I'm quitting.



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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Are you still just using the notty?



    No, I used another yeast as well. It might have been 1118.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    I'm still aging the 18% Cyser i made 3 years ago.
    I actually haven't opened a bottle in over a year now, but when I opened one last time i said "well, i'm not trying this again until it's at least 5 years old."

    Being pure apple juice, your's should be smoother earlier, but it would have been even smoother had you used fresh juice. Do it again this fall!!!
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    How would I get concentrate from fresh juice without setting the pectin? Do a number of 1 gallon batches and eis them to add all together?
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    How would I get concentrate from fresh juice without setting the pectin? Do a number of 1 gallon batches and eis them to add all together?



    Couldn't you freeze concentrate the juice first?
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    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    How would I get concentrate from fresh juice without setting the pectin? Do a number of 1 gallon batches and eis them to add all together?



    Couldn't you freeze concentrate the juice first?


    Vacuum chamber for the win, as usual.
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    How would I get concentrate from fresh juice without setting the pectin? Do a number of 1 gallon batches and eis them to add all together?



    Couldn't you freeze concentrate the juice first?


    Vacuum chamber for the win, as usual.

    that would work as well.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    Yeah, i would just freeze concentrate it. They have pectinase and other things you could use and they would have some effect.

    Personally, i just would call it a scrumpy, which is supposed to be cloudy, and not care.
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Drain pour. No apple flavor. Caramel, vanilla, and maybe citrus. Not boozy, but not good.
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    bummers. Is the drain cleaner at least?
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    C_B said:

    bummers. Is the drain cleaner at least?



    Yeah, after I cleaned the carboy...
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  • CurlyFatCurlyFat
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Drain pour. No apple flavor. Caramel, vanilla, and maybe citrus. Not boozy, but not good.



    Bummer.


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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Drain pour. No apple flavor. Caramel, vanilla, and maybe citrus. Not boozy, but not good.



    Did you remember the milk?
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