Scoob's Oktoberfest Ale
  • scoobscoob
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    Oktoberfest ALE II


    BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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    03-B European Amber Lager, Oktoberfest/Maerzen (scratch that, it's an ALE!)

    Min OG: 1.050 Max OG: 1.056
    Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 28
    Min Clr: 7 Max Clr: 14 Color in SRM, Lovibond

    Recipe Specifics
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    Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
    Total Grain (Lbs): 10.75
    Anticipated OG: 1.051 Plato: 12.61
    Anticipated SRM: 10.3
    Anticipated IBU: 21.4
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
    Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes




    Grains


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    5.25 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)
    3.00 lbs. Vienna Malt
    2.00 lbs. Munich Malt(dark)
    0.50 lbs. Crystal 60L





    Hops


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    1.00 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 3.20%AA 60 min.
    0.50 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 3.20%AA 45 min.
    0.50 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 3.20%AA 25 min.


    Yeast
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    Danstar Nottingham


    Mash Schedule
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    Mash Type: Single Step

    Grain Lbs: 10.75
    Water Qts: 13.97 - Before Additional Infusions
    Water Gal: 3.49 - Before Additional Infusions

    Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.30 - Before Additional Infusions

    Saccharification Rest Temp : 152 Time: 60
    Mash-out Rest Temp : 212 Time: 10
    Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 10


    Total Mash Volume Gal: 4.35 - Dough-In Infusion Only

    All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.



    Notes
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    ferment at 59-60 degrees to keep the flavors clean and subdued, the malt is the key player in this beer.

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  • scoobscoob
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    I was toying with the idea of dropping the honey malt and going with 2 lbs of Munich dark malt instead, any thoughts?
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  • scoobscoob
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    I'm going to brew this one up real soon so I can have it at thanksgiving dinner with the smoked turkey.
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  • scoobscoob
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    I could use some test brewers to give this one a try and give tasting notes on it to further develop the recipe
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  • scoobscoob
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    Maybe drop the mash temp to 150-152? the malts should keep it in the proper mouthfeel and level of sweetness.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I would cut way back on the crystal .... way back. Loose the honey malt and bump the Vienna up to about 50% or higher ....
    Might be worth a decoction mash ...but doing the first runnings boil will get you close
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  • ceanntceannt
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    azscoob said:

    Maybe drop the mash temp to 150-152? the malts should keep it in the proper mouthfeel and level of sweetness.



    Yep ... 152 153....
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    azscoob said:

    I was toying with the idea of dropping the honey malt and going with 2 lbs of Munich dark malt instead, any thoughts?



    definitely drop the honey malt. i like it, just not for this type of beer.

    and i'd never say no to more munich malt!
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  • scoobscoob
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    Ok, 152 on temp, drop honey malt and go back to 2 lb Munich, kick a half lb of crystal out and add it to the Vienna .

    Color drops to 10.3, but it still fits the bill, I would hate to up the Vienna too much, I find it to get too grainy tasting?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    azscoob said:

    Ok, 152 on temp, drop honey malt and go back to 2 lb Munich, kick a half lb of crystal out and add it to the Vienna .

    Color drops to 10.3, but it still fits the bill, I would hate to up the Vienna too much, I find it to get too grainy tasting?



    my vienna lager doesn't taste grainy at all. :-??
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  • scoobscoob
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    In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity
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  • scoobscoob
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    That could be me though, I'm also one of those guys who only taste cat piss in beers brewed with simcoe.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Oh, me likey. I need a lager I can do without lagering.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    azscoob said:

    That could be me though, I'm also one of those guys who only taste cat piss in beers brewed with simcoe.



    i agree with this 10000%
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    azscoob said:

    In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity



    well, here's my philosophy on brewing: if you like it, brew it that way. if not, don't.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    azscoob said:

    In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity



    Interesting ....... it should taste malty ...

    scoob
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Good call on the hops
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  • scoobscoob
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    ceannt said:

    azscoob said:

    In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity



    Interesting ....... it should taste malty ...


    Oh, its malty for sure.. I get a bit of biscuity toast notes as well that I pick up on and its like I focus in on that aspect of it for some reason
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  • ceanntceannt
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    azscoob said:

    ceannt said:

    azscoob said:

    In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity



    Interesting ....... it should taste malty ...


    Oh, its malty for sure.. I get a bit of biscuity toast notes as well that I pick up on and its like I focus in on that aspect of it for some reason


    Ok....
    Yeah... my version I use Vienna for base malt .... I will postie one of these days.
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  • scoobscoob
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    I adjusted the recipe above to reflect changes mentioned in this thread.
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