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Every year I try to brew something the week after Christmas intended for consumption the following winter or as gifts. These beers have typically been big beers tat take awhile to make. Examples: 12% Wee Heavy, Oaked Russian Imperial Stout or a Chocolate Peppermint Baltic Porter. I think with all of three of these beers I've bulk aged in secondary for 6 months or longer.
For those that want to participate, I had a couple of ideas that we need to align to.
1. Do you want to pick one style and all brew within that style? If you wanted to we could even get down to dictating ingredients. I'm not a huge fan of this but if it's what the groups wants then I'm in.
2. Do you want to also do a beer swap with the finished product?
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Or ..... we could all do something different ... and still do a swapNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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So we are not trading beer for more of the same style .... variety is coolNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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ceannt said:
So we are not trading beer for more of the same style .... variety is cool
But then we arent all brewing the same thing and critiquing each others failures from a common starting point.
Im with fuzzy.
And yeah, this will be my "one"The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:ceannt said:
So we are not trading beer for more of the same style .... variety is cool
But then we arent all brewing the same thing and critiquing each others failures from a common starting point.
Im with fuzzy.
And yeah, this will be my "one"
still rather we were creative about it.... instead of a competition. I would much rather try out several different beers , than have a boatload of something that I just brewed myself....Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
I think we can all do the same style but tweak the recipes. Like a stout for example, some might chose to oak or bourbon or both. Maybe do a raspberry chocolate stout or a sweet stout. I think there are ways to do the same style but add a lot of variety.
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jlw said:
I think we can all do the same style but tweak the recipes. Like a stout for example, some might chose to oak or bourbon or both. Maybe do a raspberry chocolate stout or a sweet stout. I think there are ways to do the same style but add a lot of variety.
this. which is why i said style, not recipe.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
I'm in. I choose doppelbockThere's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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i can't say no to that.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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I have 55 lb of Vienna and 25 lb of Munich itching to be in a mash tun.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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Oh good one of the few styles for which I have neither the grains nor the hops to make it.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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I could do a dopplebock.
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Lakewood said:
Oh good one of the few styles for which I have neither the grains nor the hops to make it.
We didn't expect you to have the ingredients for beer.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
I think some other options could be stouts, quad, wee heavy, what else to beat around?
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BenS said:Lakewood said:
Oh good one of the few styles for which I have neither the grains nor the hops to make it.
We didn't expect you to have the ingredients for beer.
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But yeah. Ha ha. Real funny.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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jlw said:
I think some other options could be stouts, quad, wee heavy, what else to beat around?
I'm up for anything. Let's brew bud light bro!There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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I would like to do a dopplebock but my ferm
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jlw said:
I would like to do a dopplebock but my ferm
Chamber is broken right now. Not sure I could do a proper one.
Did you have something else in mind?There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
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oak chips.... ?Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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barleywines are cool, in that there is a pretty wide range.... could end up with some radically different interpretations.... I like this ideaNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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ceannt said:
barleywines are cool, in that there is a pretty wide range.... could end up with some radically different interpretations.... I like this idea
if that's the case.. vetoThe pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
As long as we limit the BU:GU ratio to 1:2, I'm down for barleywine.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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You mean minimum, right?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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There are currently five willing to participate. Maybe we will get a few more if we keep bumping. Here are the ideas I've heard so far: Stout, Dopplebock, Barleywine. I think we could also add: Porter, Strong Ale, Belgian Strong Ale (triple or quad).
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I would also add that if this works out maybe we should do more beer swap threads. I think there could be some really cool threads about some of the beers identified in this thread.
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yes.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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jlw said:
There are currently five willing to participate. Maybe we will get a few more if we keep bumping. Here are the ideas I've heard so far: Stout, Dopplebock, Barleywine. I think we could also add: Porter, Strong Ale, Belgian Strong Ale (triple or quad).
Who's the 5th? Me, you, FZ, and father time.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
And we better decide quick. I'm brewing a delirium tremens clone this weekend and probably an oaked dragon's milk a couple weeks after that.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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BenS said:jlw said:
There are currently five willing to participate. Maybe we will get a few more if we keep bumping. Here are the ideas I've heard so far: Stout, Dopplebock, Barleywine. I think we could also add: Porter, Strong Ale, Belgian Strong Ale (triple or quad).
Who's the 5th? Me, you, FZ, and father time.
Me?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
BenS said:jlw said:
There are currently five willing to participate. Maybe we will get a few more if we keep bumping. Here are the ideas I've heard so far: Stout, Dopplebock, Barleywine. I think we could also add: Porter, Strong Ale, Belgian Strong Ale (triple or quad).
Who's the 5th? Me, you, FZ, and father time.
Father time! Ha!"On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
Lakewood said:BenS said:jlw said:
There are currently five willing to participate. Maybe we will get a few more if we keep bumping. Here are the ideas I've heard so far: Stout, Dopplebock, Barleywine. I think we could also add: Porter, Strong Ale, Belgian Strong Ale (triple or quad).
Who's the 5th? Me, you, FZ, and father time.
Me?
Oh, you're for sure in? Not being a smart ass, just thought you were waiting for the style before you decided.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
BenS said:Lakewood said:BenS said:jlw said:
There are currently five willing to participate. Maybe we will get a few more if we keep bumping. Here are the ideas I've heard so far: Stout, Dopplebock, Barleywine. I think we could also add: Porter, Strong Ale, Belgian Strong Ale (triple or quad).
Who's the 5th? Me, you, FZ, and father time.
Me?
Oh, you're for sure in? Not being a smart ass, just thought you were waiting for the style before you decided.
Im in. I'll brew whatever style you guys want. I just hope we decide on vinegar mold stout, because im really good at making that.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
I'm not sure we are any closer to coming to a conclusion on a style here. So, what do you guys think about a Belgian Triple or Quad or a Stout? Both are good winter warmers, both I think age well and you can do a lot with making them unique.
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Agreed. Just pick one and let's get going.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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jlw said:
I'm not sure we are any closer to coming to a conclusion on a style here. So, what do you guys think about a Belgian Triple or Quad or a Stout? Both are good winter warmers, both I think age well and you can do a lot with making them unique.
stout as a fist choice. tripel would be cool too, though. never had a quad, so i'm not sure if i want to brew a whole batch of it.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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FromZwolle said:jlw said:
I'm not sure we are any closer to coming to a conclusion on a style here. So, what do you guys think about a Belgian Triple or Quad or a Stout? Both are good winter warmers, both I think age well and you can do a lot with making them unique.
stout as a fist choice. tripel would be cool too, though. never had a quad, so i'm not sure if i want to brew a whole batch of it.
Then go try a quad. I mean right now. Drop everything you're doing and go.
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jlw said:FromZwolle said:jlw said:
I'm not sure we are any closer to coming to a conclusion on a style here. So, what do you guys think about a Belgian Triple or Quad or a Stout? Both are good winter warmers, both I think age well and you can do a lot with making them unique.
stout as a fist choice. tripel would be cool too, though. never had a quad, so i'm not sure if i want to brew a whole batch of it.
Then go try a quad. I mean right now. Drop everything you're doing and go.
@fromzwolle
i've never even seen one.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Have you ever had St. Bernardus Christmas Ale?
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jlw said:FromZwolle said:jlw said:
I'm not sure we are any closer to coming to a conclusion on a style here. So, what do you guys think about a Belgian Triple or Quad or a Stout? Both are good winter warmers, both I think age well and you can do a lot with making them unique.
stout as a fist choice. tripel would be cool too, though. never had a quad, so i'm not sure if i want to brew a whole batch of it.
Then go try a quad. I mean right now. Drop everything you're doing and go.
@fromzwolle
this. Right nowNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
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FromZwolle said:
Unless it's Lakewood's mold stout I'm probably out. Depending on what you all decide I may try to brew an extract with steeped grains variant. But we'll see about timing and so forth."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
@mors are you in?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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The stout idea seems to be a little more favored here. Unless there is a protest let's go with a stout.
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Ok.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Stout it isNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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I could be in for an imperial stout. How are we going to work out the shipping. Go to 1 central location and then they divy up and send each person a box with each beer in it? Or everyone sent out 5-6 boxes.. Seems like the latter would cost more.BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
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mors said:
I could be in for an imperial stout. How are we going to work out the shipping. Go to 1 central location and then they divy up and send each person a box with each beer in it? Or everyone sent out 5-6 boxes.. Seems like the latter would cost more.
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mors said:
I could be in for an imperial stout. How are we going to work out the shipping. Go to 1 central location and then they divy up and send each person a box with each beer in it? Or everyone sent out 5-6 boxes.. Seems like the latter would cost more.
just send it all here. I'll, uh, divide it up and stuff.
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We could always just mail it all to @BenS
sooner or later he will move close enough to all of us to just hand them outNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity. -
Thats pretty funny.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Time to fire up the discussion again on this thread. I'm about a month away from brewing this. Here is the base recipe I think I am going to use.
I have another thread on here with this recipe. One addition will be oats. I may split and add bourbon to one and oak to another.
Any other suggestions for this beer? Please post your recipe here as well.
Stone – Imperial Russian Stout Clone
OG: 1.096
FG: 1.020
IBU: 90+
SRM: 93
ABV: 10%
16.5 lbs 2 row
2 lbs amber malt
1.25 roasted barley
1.25 black malt
1.7 ounces Warrior at 90 min
WLP002 – English Ale
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Ill try to get a recipe pulled together this week.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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I'm thinking about adding a little chocolate malt to this.
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another week or so and im brewing.
haven't decided on a recipe. hell. havent even started yet.
but im thinkin OG 1.105, IBU 65-70, SRM 60+
that's my target numbers. i'll build a recipe around that.
lots of chocolate, a good bit of carafa / crystal and a touch of special b. i'm going to sneak some oats in there for body - but not to make an oatmeal stout. hops will be mostly palisades from a year and a half ago + whatever else is handy. i've got 2-row and pilsner for base malt.
WLP006 Bedford British yeastThe only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
my beer it going to either blow your mind or make you blow chunks. either way, i win.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Lakewood said:
my beer it going to either blow your mind or make you blow chunks. either way, i win.
I would bet on the latter.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
I don't have much experience with Wyeast 1762 but the batch of beer I brewed today and put in the conical will have a slurry I plan to use for 3-4 more brews... This will likely be brewed with 1762... Which is weird because it's a belgian yeast strain... but wyeast recommends it for RIS? I guess it depends on how 'belgiany' it comes out in these other beers (Belgian Single, pLambic, Belgian Dark Strong)BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
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mors said:
I don't have much experience with Wyeast 1762 but the batch of beer I brewed today and put in the conical will have a slurry I plan to use for 3-4 more brews... This will likely be brewed with 1762... Which is weird because it's a belgian yeast strain... but wyeast recommends it for RIS? I guess it depends on how 'belgiany' it comes out in these other beers (Belgian Single, pLambic, Belgian Dark Strong)
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Lakewood said:
another week or so and im brewing.
haven't decided on a recipe. hell. havent even started yet.
but im thinkin OG 1.105, IBU 65-70, SRM 60+
that's my target numbers. i'll build a recipe around that.
lots of chocolate, a good bit of carafa / crystal and a touch of special b. i'm going to sneak some oats in there for body - but not to make an oatmeal stout. hops will be mostly palisades from a year and a half ago + whatever else is handy. i've got 2-row and pilsner for base malt.
WLP006 Bedford British yeast
Big with a nice malt/hop balance made with seriously old hops thus bringing the IBUs down into the delicious range. I bet it'll be good."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants -
i'll probably just brew my stout recipe, up the gravity and add bourbon and oak. it was delicious last time i did that, should be even better with a bit more gravity and age on it.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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@drcurly you should participateThe only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Mine would be a new years beer....and I didn't read the whole thread...but I'm intrigued.
I took a short one a couple hours ago. It was nice. --
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Maybe I'll just brew an upgraded version of my basic stout. How bad could it be?
I took a short one a couple hours ago. It was nice. --
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DrCurly said:
Maybe I'll just brew an upgraded version of my basic stout. How bad could it be?
Slightly better than mine?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
DrCurly said:
Maybe I'll just brew an upgraded version of my basic stout. How bad could it be?
is there a thread already?The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Below is the recipe I brewed a few weeks ago.
In Fermenter Vol (Gal) 10.0
In Fermenter Starting Brix 23.5
In Fermenter OG 1.099
In Fermenter FG 1.020
ABV 10.3
IBU 31
SRM 45.8
Fermentables
American - Pale 2-Row 58%
German - Munich Light 27%
American - Caramel / Crystal 80L 3%
American - Caramel / Crystal 120L 3%
American - Oats 3%
American - Chocolate 4%
United Kingdom - Black Patent 2%
Hops Predicted IBU
Columbus -USA 31
WY1084-Irish Ale
Mash @ 152F for 60 min
Chill to 62F
Ferment @ 64F until terminal gravity reached
Transfer to bourbon barrel until desired bourbon flavor reached.
Carbonate to 2.1 vol CO2.
Age until drunkenness desired.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
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I will brew in the next weekend or so. I ended up being out of town the last week of the year.
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jlw said:
I will brew in the next weekend or so. I ended up being out of town the last week of the year.
I ended up crashing my motorcycle the day before I was planning on brewing...The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Lakewood said:jlw said:
I will brew in the next weekend or so. I ended up being out of town the last week of the year.
I ended up crashing my motorcycle the day before I was planning on brewing...
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Lakewood said:jlw said:
I will brew in the next weekend or so. I ended up being out of town the last week of the year.
I ended up crashing my motorcycle the day before I was planning on brewing...
I call bullshit as well. Besides, if you're going to make this excuse, you should have said that it was the day of the brew.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly -
BenS said:Lakewood said:jlw said:
I will brew in the next weekend or so. I ended up being out of town the last week of the year.
I ended up crashing my motorcycle the day before I was planning on brewing...
I call bullshit as well. Besides, if you're going to make this excuse, you should have said that it was the day of the brew.
Crashed Friday. Had everything ready for Saturday. I'll brew when get the splint off.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
Glad I didn't plan for this weekend. Now the high is 31. Maybe next weekend.
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tried some of while racking today. came out pretty good. debating adding some wood honeycomb to it....BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
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tried some of while racking today. came out pretty good. debating adding some wood honeycomb to it....
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FromZwolle said:mors said:
tried some of while racking today. came out pretty good. debating adding some wood honeycomb to it....
what kind?
Well I am unable to find one I know I have... but right now I'm looking at White Ash, Soft Maple, and Hard Maple.
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mors said:FromZwolle said:mors said:
tried some of while racking today. came out pretty good. debating adding some wood honeycomb to it....
what kind?
Well I am unable to find one I know I have... but right now I'm looking at White Ash, Soft Maple, and Hard Maple.
i'd go with hard maple. but then again, i can't be bothered to go look at the recipe you brewed.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
If I brew something in about 3 weeks, can I still participate? I plan on brewing a stout then anyway. I doubt it'll be something that requires 9 months of aging, but It'll be something that'll be great in 9 months.
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DrCurly said:
If I brew something in about 3 weeks, can I still participate? I plan on brewing a stout then anyway. I doubt it'll be something that requires 9 months of aging, but It'll be something that'll be great in 9 months.
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DrCurly said:
If I brew something in about 3 weeks, can I still participate? I plan on brewing a stout then anyway. I doubt it'll be something that requires 9 months of aging, but It'll be something that'll be great in 9 months.
As long as there are no short and curlies in it.
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I'm still trying to find a good weekend to brew. The weather has sucked or I have been out of town.
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jlw said:
I'm still trying to find a good weekend to brew. The weather has sucked or I have been out of town.
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mors said:DrCurly said:
If I brew something in about 3 weeks, can I still participate? I plan on brewing a stout then anyway. I doubt it'll be something that requires 9 months of aging, but It'll be something that'll be great in 9 months.
As long as there are no short and curlies in it.
I...uh....I mean....I can't just make promises all willy-nilly...
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Prepping my bourbon barrel for the Christmas stout. This is gonna be so good.20150316_181332.jpg5312 x 2988 - 4MThere's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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BenS said:
Prepping my bourbon barrel for the Christmas stout. This is gonna be so good.
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Dr_Jerryrigger said:BenS said:
Prepping my bourbon barrel for the Christmas stout. This is gonna be so good.
By prepping, I hope you mean aging some whiskey for ten years...and that that is almost done.
It kinda dried out badly because I hadn't used it in over a yr. Soaked it in water for a few days to swell the wood and now I've got a pint of rum in there to sanitize until this weekend when I full it with wonderful imperial stout.There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
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