What to brew with these ingredients?
  • C_BC_B
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    6 lbs Vienna
    5 lbs Boheniam Pilsner
    5 lbs Light Wheat
    12 oz Special B
    10 oz Crystal 60
    8 oz Victory
    6 oz Midnight Wheat
    4 oz Crystal 20
    Enough Golden Light DME to start a Microbrewery

    8 oz Centennial leaf
    8 oz Nugget pellet
    5 oz Centennial pellet
    5 oz WGV

    I need simple for the BrewCast. I am not limited to this list, but using as much of it as possible would be nice.
    I'm thinking a WGV based bitter with a nice malty backbone or an easy drinkin' stout.
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  • ThymThym
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    batch size?
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  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    batch size?



    Oh Right. Important info there.

    10 gallon finished batch
    5 gallon MLT so a max of 16 lbs of grain. Then I'll add DME to get to the right OG.
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  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    Lakewood said:

    batch size?



    Oh Right. Important info there.

    10 gallon finished batch
    5 gallon MLT so a max of 16 lbs of grain. Then I'll add DME to get to the right OG.


    what kind of DME?
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  • C_BC_B
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    I also have S-04, S-05, WLP001 and WLP005 handy. I'd rather use the liquid just to use it, the dry is kinda of my back up, hey I'm brewing this weekend and forgot yeast, yeast.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    C_B said:

    Lakewood said:

    batch size?



    Oh Right. Important info there.

    10 gallon finished batch
    5 gallon MLT so a max of 16 lbs of grain. Then I'll add DME to get to the right OG.


    what kind of DME?

    Golden Light. That was in the BOM.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????



    reverse the hop schedule and you'll have a nice pale ale.
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????



    I don't know Kenny. That's why I'm asking you. Sounds nice though? Maybe split the hops up a bit from 10 minutes down to flame out?
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????



    reverse the hop schedule and you'll have a nice pale ale.

    You mean the quantities or the hops? Or both? I've had 20 gallons of Centennial pale ale/IPA this year. My palate needs to see other hops for a little while.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????



    reverse the hop schedule and you'll have a nice pale ale.

    You mean the quantities or the hops? Or both? I've had 20 gallons of Centennial pale ale/IPA this year. My palate needs to see other hops for a little while.


    just the hops. centennial is a waste as a bittering hop.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    the vienna, the pils, and a bit of crystal would make a nice lager.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    The WGV as a bittering hop would be a crime .... flavor/aroma heaven
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  • ceanntceannt
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    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????



    I don't know Kenny. That's why I'm asking you. Sounds nice though? Maybe split the hops up a bit from 10 minutes down to flame out?


    10 to flameout is perfect .... I was just trying to keep it very simple
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    The WGV as a bittering hop would be a crime .... flavor/aroma heaven



    meh.
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Hmmmm.... any pale malt?
    how about all the Vienna and pilsner ... a pound of crystal ... and a ton of dme ...
    Say 2 or 3 ounces of centennial for bittering and all of the WGV at 5 min.
    ?????????



    I don't know Kenny. That's why I'm asking you. Sounds nice though? Maybe split the hops up a bit from 10 minutes down to flame out?


    10 to flameout is perfect .... I was just trying to keep it very simple


    Ah. Right. Maybe I'll complicate it up just a bit.
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  • C_BC_B
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    I'm so confused. The two people on this forum that my taste buds agree with are arguing! I don't know what to do!
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Just get drunk and start dumping stuff in. It'll be good. Just go light on the hops and it don't matter much what you use when. 90% of the time it works for me 100% of the time.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    I'm so confused. The two people on this forum that my taste buds agree with are arguing! I don't know what to do!



    kenny is focusing on the hops, he's succumb to the dark side! don't listen to him!
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  • C_BC_B
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    HERE

    So I just tossed this together based on Kenny's thougths (since no one else actually gave me a recipe input)
    Here's a couple questions...

    What do you think about the 005? I think I like it. I've only ever used it in stouts.
    I really have no Idea what a Vienna/Pilsner base is going to taste like. No idea.
    What about first wort hop? I think I'd like to finish around 50 IBUs.
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  • scoobscoob
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    C_B said:

    HERE

    So I just tossed this together based on Kenny's thougths (since no one else actually gave me a recipe input)
    Here's a couple questions...

    What do you think about the 005? I think I like it. I've only ever used it in stouts.
    I really have no Idea what a Vienna/Pilsner base is going to taste like. No idea.
    What about first wort hop? I think I'd like to finish around 50 IBUs.


    That recipe looks pretty good, I'm a fan of ESB type beers. I use a lot of 1968/002 in those styles, never tried the 005 to be honest.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    HERE

    So I just tossed this together based on Kenny's thougths (since no one else actually gave me a recipe input)
    Here's a couple questions...

    What do you think about the 005? I think I like it. I've only ever used it in stouts.
    I really have no Idea what a Vienna/Pilsner base is going to taste like. No idea.
    What about first wort hop? I think I'd like to finish around 50 IBUs.



    toss in the victory and maybe just an ounce or two of the midnight wheat too. i'm not a white labs brewer, so i'm not familiar with that yeast, but from the descriptions it sounds good.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Not normally a fan of victory ... but it just might help this one out ... and yes to the midnight wheat .. if you had it, I would say toss a couple ounces of chocolate malt ...
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  • ceanntceannt
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    S-04 would be my go to for this .... but the 005 will be fine
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  • C_BC_B
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    I have room in the MLT. Victory is in. Midnight wheat should lend and interesting color tinge.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Yes it will ... give it a bit more depth too
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Another ounce of centennial as a FWH would be good ..... and add some pizzazz to your brewcast
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Use the leaf ...
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    Use the leaf ...



    Why? No. I don't have a screen.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Leaf is better for FWH .... less processing ..... just scoop them out with a strainer 45 minutes into the boil .....
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Be a good "action shot "
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  • scoobscoob
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    ceannt said:

    Use the leaf ...


    Y'all are talking about hops!

    Not what I first thought.....
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    Leaf is better for FWH .... less processing ..... just scoop them out with a strainer 45 minutes into the boil .....


    Ah. Well ok then.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    scoob said:

    ceannt said:

    Use the leaf ...


    Y'all are talking about hops!

    Not what I first thought.....



    :))
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  • ceanntceannt
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    you can use the pellets.... but since you have them, leaf is way better
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    you can use the pellets.... but since you have them, leaf is way better


    I didn't think about scooping them out.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    :D
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  • C_BC_B
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    Yeah, leaf it is. Get rid of some of that.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    I have room in the MLT. Victory is in. Midnight wheat should lend and interesting color tinge.



    ceannt said:

    Yes it will ... give it a bit more depth too



    this.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    scoob said:

    ceannt said:

    Use the leaf ...


    Y'all are talking about hops!

    Not what I first thought.....


    you thought this was going down in washington instead of ohio. [-X
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  • ThymThym
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    002 or 005 would both be suitable for the ESB.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    002 or 005 would both be suitable for the ESB.



    Neat. I think I'm going to be able to do this entire brew with stuff I have on hand Whoo hoo!
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  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    Lakewood said:

    002 or 005 would both be suitable for the ESB.



    Neat. I think I'm going to be able to do this entire brew with stuff I have on hand Whoo hoo!



    sweet
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  • C_BC_B
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    Inputs taken and recipe adjusted. Lookie again. http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/wgv-esb-pale-whatever
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    Inputs taken and recipe adjusted. Lookie again. http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/wgv-esb-pale-whatever



    too many ibus. :-SS
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner
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  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.
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  • C_BC_B
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    C_B said:

    Inputs taken and recipe adjusted. Lookie again. http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/wgv-esb-pale-whatever



    too many ibus. :-SS

    I know, right?
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  • ceanntceannt
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    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    don't be... it will be yummy
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  • ceanntceannt
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    fry would have you double the IBU.........
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.
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  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    BOO!!
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  • C_BC_B
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    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    Lakewood said:

    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    BOO!!


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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    Lakewood said:

    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    BOO!!


    You're both banned for the week. Guilty of bad jokes.


    this week or next?

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  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    Lakewood said:

    C_B said:

    ceannt said:

    Perfect .... the bitterness from the FWH is very smooth ... and has less perception of bitter ...........
    It's a winner


    But they're already calculated at 20 minutes. I'm scared.


    perfect day for that.


    BOO!!


    You're both banned for the week. Guilty of bad jokes.


    this week or next?



    you pick

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  • C_BC_B
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    I'm mixing the ingredients. No turning back now!
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:

    I'm mixing the ingredients. No turning back now!



    yay!
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  • ceanntceannt
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    C_B said:

    I'm mixing the ingredients. No turning back now!



    SWEET!
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  • C_BC_B
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    Need some advice, Gents.

    The beer hasn't started fermenting yet. So it's been 36+ hours. I thought the 005 was from the last brew day, but that was the Peeterman. The one before that was Centennial. According to the brew log the last time I used this yeast was April 14th. #-o
    So... Do I pitch a packet of S-04 in one bucket and the S-05 in the other? Or is there any chance there's enough 005 yeast left in those vials to make decent beer?
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Hhmmm .....
    I would give it another 12 hours or so ... and pitch the dry yeast ... I would think that it was viable, it would have taken off by now ....
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    C_B said:

    Need some advice, Gents.

    The beer hasn't started fermenting yet. So it's been 36+ hours. I thought the 005 was from the last brew day, but that was the Peeterman. The one before that was Centennial. According to the brew log the last time I used this yeast was April 14th. #-o
    So... Do I pitch a packet of S-04 in one bucket and the S-05 in the other? Or is there any chance there's enough 005 yeast left in those vials to make decent beer?



    Did you add the milk?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_B said:


    So... Do I pitch a packet of S-04 in one bucket and the S-05 in the other?



    yes. pitch some dry yeast in there.

    C_B said:


    Or is there any chance there's enough 005 yeast left in those vials to make decent beer?



    maybe, but you've essentially underpitched to the extreme. it won't ferment how you want it to.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Screw it I'm pitching the 04 and 05.
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  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    Screw it I'm pitching the 04 and 05.



    yeah, do that.
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  • C_BC_B
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    One airlock looked like there was a little pressure on it. The other nothing. So I pitched the dry yeast. Might have an interesting flavor profile if the 005 actually takes off.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Note to self: Check yeast age...
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  • ThymThym
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    C_B said:

    Note to self: Check yeast age...



    addendum: if unsure of yeast viability, build a starter 3 days in advance...

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  • C_BC_B
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    So. This has been going for a while now. I should rack it to a keg.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    C_B said:

    So. This has been going for a while now. I should rack it to a keg.



    Probably .... an update on taste an' stuff would be nice too ..
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  • C_BC_B
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    Drinking now. Well, the 5 gallons that was 'less' infected than the other 5 gallons. Not bad. It's basically a decent pale. Very much just above meh.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    C_B said:

    Need some advice, Gents.

    The beer hasn't started fermenting yet. So it's been 36+ hours. I thought the 005 was from the last brew day, but that was the Peeterman. The one before that was Centennial. According to the brew log the last time I used this yeast was April 14th. #-o
    So... Do I pitch a packet of S-04 in one bucket and the S-05 in the other? Or is there any chance there's enough 005 yeast left in those vials to make decent beer?



    Did you add the milk?


    Well?
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