Anybody grow their own tobacco?
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Tobacco has been the cash crop around my area for sometime. RJR, Phillip Morris, heard of them? Yeah, local to me and where I grew up. A ride through the country around here winds you through corn or tobacco. A good friend's family farm grew tobacco. A former coworkers family grew tobacco. A good many people I know have primed tobacco. I think I want to put 2-4 plants in the ground myself. Thoughts?
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  • C_BC_B
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    Is that legal? I'm not even sure why it wouldn't be. Tax related I'm sure. But no, I have not grown my own. And thus am no help whatsoever.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I don't see why it would not be legal to grow. Selling it outside of a contract with a tobacco company may be a tax fraud.
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  • jlwjlw
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    I really don't know much. I think the key is more around the drying and maybe aging it.
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Yup, the leaves have to be picked as they ripen from bottom to top and dryed/cured/aged. I know there are at least 2 or 3 ways to dry it for cigarettes. I'm not sure the difference for pipe or cigar.

    Honestly, it will be mostly decorative.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    i looked into it a while ago. from what i read, it grows well almost everywhere.

    the curing is pretty simple, but takes a bit of equipment (curing chamber)

    i still plan on doing it, but not this year.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    oh, and perfectly legal. unless you're trying to sell it.
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  • ThymThym
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    FromZwolle said:

    oh, and perfectly legal. unless you're trying to sell it.



    Yes, this is my understanding as well.

    I've though about growing it. But I just don't have much space for larger plants like that.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Here's some history on my area for anyone that may be interested.

    http://www.digitalforsyth.org/photos/stories/the-tobacco-industry
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  • jlwjlw
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    Speaking of illegal selling of cigarettes. My wife knows a family that owned tobacco stores. They got busted for selling on the black market. Looking at time in the federal pen.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    Speaking of illegal selling of cigarettes. My wife knows a family that owned tobacco stores. They got busted for selling on the black market. Looking at time in the federal pen.



    black market cigs? weird.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Y'all got this all turned around. I ain't selling black market cigs. I don't even really know what I'd do with all of it. Provided I can cure it I'll have a lifetime supply of pipe tobacco after one year.
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Y'all got this all turned around. I ain't selling black market cigs. I don't even really know what I'd do with all of it. Provided I can cure it I'll have a lifetime supply of pipe tobacco after one year.



    seems like too much work to actually do all of that. but i can see the allure of growing a couple plants, and it would just be retarded to sell it, and you're not retarded.
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    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Y'all got this all turned around. I ain't selling black market cigs. I don't even really know what I'd do with all of it. Provided I can cure it I'll have a lifetime supply of pipe tobacco after one year.



    seems like too much work to actually do all of that. but i can see the allure of growing a couple plants, and it would just be retarded to sell it, and you're not retarded.


    Exactly. Hey look, I grew tobacco! Now back to life as normal.
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Y'all got this all turned around. I ain't selling black market cigs. I don't even really know what I'd do with all of it. Provided I can cure it I'll have a lifetime supply of pipe tobacco after one year.



    seems like too much work to actually do all of that. but i can see the allure of growing a couple plants, and it would just be retarded to sell it, and you're not retarded.


    Exactly. Hey look, I grew tobacco! Now back to life as normal.


    yup
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    this thread would be much more entertaining with some well placed quotation marks.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    "tobacco"
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Today I "found" some tobacco plants. I wish I knew the variety. They aren't "tobacco". I know that for sure.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    "tobacco" is much easier to grow... and doesn't strip all the nutrients out of the soil as bad... just sayin'
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  • ceanntceannt
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    My great granddaddy use to grow "tobacco".... made rope and such from it ... there were still a few patches of the stuff on the farm when I was a kid ....
    Always kinda wondered if the old boy smoked it .....
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    ceannt said:

    My great granddaddy use to grow "tobacco".... made rope and such from it ... there were still a few patches of the stuff on the farm when I was a kid ....
    Always kinda wondered if the old boy smoked it .....


    probably not. not if it was the "tobacco" that made good rope. lots of farms used to grow it for that purpose, but it was not the smokeable variety.
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    frydogbrews said:

    ceannt said:

    My great granddaddy use to grow "tobacco".... made rope and such from it ... there were still a few patches of the stuff on the farm when I was a kid ....
    Always kinda wondered if the old boy smoked it .....


    probably not. not if it was the "tobacco" that made good rope. lots of farms used to grow it for that purpose, but it was not the smokeable variety.


    thats kinda what I thought...
    (one of my cousins used to uh... harvest some from the remnants... not sure how he did with that...)
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    There they are.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    woohoo!

    are these intended for a cigarette type tobacco or a more heavily treated leaf such as a pipe variety?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    also, what variety?
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    I feel sure they are Virginia. So cigarette or pipe depending on curing.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    I feel sure they are Virginia. So cigarette or pipe depending on curing.



    curing is very similar. it's casing and topping that sets it apart.
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  • ThymThym
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    very cool. looks like they are growing well
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Cool .... so when do we get to see the drying shed build thread?
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    ceannt said:

    Cool .... so when do we get to see the drying shed build thread?



    You mean garage then attic?
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Ha! .... figured you would do one of them open slat guys like the big boys used to ...
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    No comment.
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Oh crap, planting season is over. I just had a guy text me to tell me there are LOTS of plants left over. I think I have a whole flat to pick up. I think a flat is 2 gross. What am I gonna do with all of that??? Seasonal privacy fence? Sure would keep the neighborhood kids out.
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Oh crap, planting season is over. I just had a guy text me to tell me there are LOTS of plants left over. I think I have a whole flat to pick up. I think a flat is 2 gross. What am I gonna do with all of that??? Seasonal privacy fence? Sure would keep the neighborhood kids out.



    i guess you'll need a drying shack.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Lakewood said:

    jeepinjeepin said:

    Oh crap, planting season is over. I just had a guy text me to tell me there are LOTS of plants left over. I think I have a whole flat to pick up. I think a flat is 2 gross. What am I gonna do with all of that??? Seasonal privacy fence? Sure would keep the neighborhood kids out.



    i guess you'll need a drying shack.


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