HLT Woes (Leaky Fitting)
  • ThymThym
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    This discussion was created from comments split from a never ending source of wonder and conversation..
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  • BenSBenS
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    My damn jb weld job on my hlt failed during testing last night.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • BenSBenS
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    Had to order ss parts because stupid Lubbock doesn't have them anywhere.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    BenS said:

    My damn jb weld job on my hlt failed during testing last night.



    duct tape?
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    My damn jb weld job on my hlt failed during testing last night.



    If you didn't test it you would have made it work, I know you would have.
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  • jlwjlw
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    My damn jb weld job on my hlt failed during testing last night.



    If you didn't test it you would have made it work, I know you would have.

    sound logic. at least at a minimum you wouldn't have known is failed
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?
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  • BenSBenS
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    45$ later, I bought my $3 parts
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?



    SS. I had a leak in a weld and tried to seal it with jb. Didn't work.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?



    SS. I had a leak in a weld and tried to seal it with jb. Didn't work.


    how could that not work?
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  • BenSBenS
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    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?



    SS. I had a leak in a weld and tried to seal it with jb. Didn't work.


    how could that not work?


    seems like that should do the trick.
  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?



    SS. I had a leak in a weld and tried to seal it with jb. Didn't work.


    how could that not work?


    Don't know, but it wasn't holding.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?
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  • BenSBenS
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    jlw said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?



    SS. I had a leak in a weld and tried to seal it with jb. Didn't work.


    how could that not work?


    seems like that should do the trick.


    I would have thought so also. I don't think it was sticking to the metal. I reapplied a couple of times and water kept dipping out from under the jb.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    Which JB Wled product did you use? I see there are myriad of options.
  • jlwjlw
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    I wonder if this one would have worked better?

    http://www.jbweld.com/product/perm-o-seal/

  • BenSBenS
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    jlw said:

    Which JB Wled product did you use? I see there are myriad of options.



    Classic 2 part epoxy.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    jlw said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    what did you jb? SS, plastic, and to what?



    SS. I had a leak in a weld and tried to seal it with jb. Didn't work.


    how could that not work?


    seems like that should do the trick.


    I would have thought so also. I don't think it was sticking to the metal. I reapplied a couple of times and water kept dipping out from under the jb.


    I take it the spot that doesn't get above 100C? If so, just use 5min epoxy. The more liquidy stuff will get in the leek better. scuff the area with sand paper and clean it with acetone first. JB should work if you use it right, but something that can seep in will work better.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS
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  • BenSBenS
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    jlw said:

    I wonder if this one would have worked better?

    http://www.jbweld.com/product/perm-o-seal/



    Maybe.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    jlw said:

    Which JB Wled product did you use? I see there are myriad of options.



    Classic 2 part epoxy.


    not JB quick (i think they spell it funny).
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  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    Just need a spool or pack of SS sticks/wire
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  • C_BC_B
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    BenS said:

    My damn jb weld job on my hlt failed during testing last night.



    Why no pics?
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    That's all they use at my work and they make everything out of SS (food manufacturing). SS wire is only a buck or two more than mild steel.
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  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    That's all they use at my work and they make everything out of SS (food manufacturing). SS wire is only a buck or two more than mild steel.


    For a wheel? Granted, I'm no professional welder but I thought a whole wheel would be more than that. Can you use the same gas?
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • BenSBenS
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    C_dubbs said:

    BenS said:

    My damn jb weld job on my hlt failed during testing last night.



    Why no pics?


    It didn't cross my mind. I was annoyed at that point in the day.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • C_BC_B
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    I thought Lincoln makes stainless rod for ark welding? Maybe not.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    That's all they use at my work and they make everything out of SS (food manufacturing). SS wire is only a buck or two more than mild steel.


    For a wheel? Granted, I'm no professional welder but I thought a whole wheel would be more than that. Can you use the same gas?


    I don't know the prices exactly. But last time I was buying MIG wire I remember the 2lb spools being not much more. Welding works the same way. I've never done it but I bet it's a little more difficult because everything seems to be with SS.
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  • BenSBenS
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    I didn't realize I could get stainless sticks. I'm not sure I would want to try honestly. Afraid to burn through my thin vessel.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    That's all they use at my work and they make everything out of SS (food manufacturing). SS wire is only a buck or two more than mild steel.


    For a wheel? Granted, I'm no professional welder but I thought a whole wheel would be more than that. Can you use the same gas?


    I don't know the prices exactly. But last time I was buying MIG wire I remember the 2lb spools being not much more. Welding works the same way. I've never done it but I bet it's a little more difficult because everything seems to be with SS.


    Hmmm. Damn. To late now.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    C_dubbs said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    I thought Lincoln makes stainless rod for ark welding? Maybe not.


    I'm 98.4% sure they do
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    I didn't realize I could get stainless sticks. I'm not sure I would want to try honestly. Afraid to burn through my thin vessel.


    Just use low power and slowly make a glob, it might not stop the leak but it wont make it worse.
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  • BenSBenS
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    Well, maybe. Might stop by the welding supply store tomorrow.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    C_dubbs said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    I thought Lincoln makes stainless rod for ark welding? Maybe not.


    I didn't know he was a welder?
  • BenSBenS
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    jlw said:

    C_dubbs said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Since I don't have the equipment to weld stainless and my friend who does graduated and moved away, I had to order weldless parts


    Do you have the equipment to weld anything?


    Yep. Wire mig welder and stick welder at work.


    Then you can weld SS


    I'm not willing to buy a stainless wire wheel for the mig. And I've never heard on arc welding stainless.


    I thought Lincoln makes stainless rod for ark welding? Maybe not.


    I didn't know he was a welder?


    He did everything.....
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • jlwjlw
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    A really long time ago I worked for a company doing non destructive testing on welds and I know SS was always the toughest for people to get right.
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?
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  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?



    I assume so. Corny keg vessel and ss nut.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?



    I assume so. Corny keg vessel and ss nut.


    If a magnet does not stick to it it is 300 (most likely 304 or 316) it's good to know if there are options for SS sticks.
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  • BenSBenS
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?



    I assume so. Corny keg vessel and ss nut.


    If a magnet does not stick to it it is 300 (most likely 304 or 316) it's good to know if there are options for SS sticks.


    Good call. You a welder?
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?



    I assume so. Corny keg vessel and ss nut.


    If a magnet does not stick to it it is 300 (most likely 304 or 316) it's good to know if there are options for SS sticks.


    Good call. You a welder?


    A hack welder. I used to be a machinist.
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  • BenSBenS
    Posts: 6,248
    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?



    I assume so. Corny keg vessel and ss nut.


    If a magnet does not stick to it it is 300 (most likely 304 or 316) it's good to know if there are options for SS sticks.


    Good call. You a welder?


    A hack welder. I used to be a machinist.


    That's awesome. Kinda a dying breed because of the cnc and waterjet machines now.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    BenS said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Is it a 300 series SS alloy?



    I assume so. Corny keg vessel and ss nut.


    If a magnet does not stick to it it is 300 (most likely 304 or 316) it's good to know if there are options for SS sticks.


    Good call. You a welder?


    A hack welder. I used to be a machinist.


    That's awesome. Kinda a dying breed because of the cnc and waterjet machines now.


    I mostly did CNC shit. I know how to do thing manual, but I'm no master.
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  • ThymThym
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    You can get a spool of stainless wire from HFT for pretty cheap.

    There are better gasses for stainless than the normal mild steel gas, but it will work. probably just have more spatter than you'd like.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    They make flux core SS wire too
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  • ThymThym
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    Here is a good thread on flux cor SS wire.

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=22539

    I don't recommend going down that path. It's expensive, not easily available compared to solid SS wire. And another thing to note is most flux core SS wire is actually "Dual-Shield" meaning it's intended to be run with gas. But allows you to run cleanly without Tri-Mix, which is the best gas for metal core SS wire welding.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • C_BC_B
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    Really though, you don't have a welder around there somewhere that would fix you up for cheap? I have two guys here I could call and have them weld something quick and easy like that for $20. Done and done.

    Thym
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
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