Anyone want any other types of swag
  • ThymThym
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    Hats? ($20 + shipping)

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    bottle openers? ($6 + shipping)
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    T-Shirts? ($15 + shipping)
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  • C_BC_B
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    The bottle openers look pretty cool. I would probably buy them if they were available, though I shouldn't.

    I'm going to buy some sweet grain reaper gear when I get the cheddar, so not so much on the tees.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_dubbs said:

    The bottle openers look pretty cool. I would probably buy them if they were available, though I shouldn't.

    I'm going to buy some sweet grain reaper gear when I get the cheddar, so not so much on the tees.



    i hate those type of bottle openers. they twist the cap into a mangled mess, but i like the idea of hbf bottle openers.
    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • ceanntceannt
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    C_dubbs said:

    The bottle openers look pretty cool. I would probably buy them if they were available, though I shouldn't.

    I'm going to buy some sweet grain reaper gear when I get the cheddar, so not so much on the tees.



    i hate those type of bottle openers. they twist the cap into a mangled mess, but i like the idea of hbf bottle openers.


    Hah! Says the guy that re uses caps ....
    Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    C_dubbs said:

    The bottle openers look pretty cool. I would probably buy them if they were available, though I shouldn't.

    I'm going to buy some sweet grain reaper gear when I get the cheddar, so not so much on the tees.



    i hate those type of bottle openers. they twist the cap into a mangled mess, but i like the idea of hbf bottle openers.


    Hah! Says the guy that re uses caps ....


    :-\"
    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • ThymThym
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    I'll look for other bottle opener styles.

    Personally I think the embroidered hat looks pretty fantabulous.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Make it the mesh backed trucker style.
  • C_BC_B
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    Benvarine said:

    Make it the mesh backed trucker style.


    High topped, mesh backed, short billed. AKA, the Super Farmer hat.
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  • ThymThym
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    Kill me now.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ceanntceannt
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    Lakewood said:

    Kill me now.



    hah!..... pretty much
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    Benvarine said:

    Make it the mesh backed trucker style.



    ha, are you on HBF while in a meeting with my wife? cause that's pretty awesome...
  • scoobscoob
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    Lakewood said:

    I'll look for other bottle opener styles..



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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    these things are cool.

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    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    these things are cool.

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    yup, i have one of those in my wallet just because.
    most of my beers get opened with a regular bic lighter though.
  • scoobscoob
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    I need an HBF wall mount bottle opener

    Like this one

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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Benvarine said:

    Make it the mesh backed trucker style.



    ha, are you on HBF while in a meeting with my wife? cause that's pretty awesome...


    Yea, I was. Sometimes those things just drag on, gotta make good use of my time.


    Thym
  • ThymThym
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    azscoob said:

    I need an HBF wall mount bottle opener

    Like this one



    i have one of those in my garage... not sure how i'd go about getting them branded though
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    I'd be up for Belgian glasses, quality bottle openers, not those plastic things, pint glass coozies, brewery work shirt, skull cap.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    I'd be up for Belgian glasses, quality bottle openers, not those plastic things, pint glass coozies, brewery work shirt, skull cap.



    what do you consider a brewery work shirt?
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  • ThymThym
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    a skull cap like this?
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.
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  • ThymThym
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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    i assume you are referring to the opening end shape, not the dolphin design
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    i assume you are referring to the opening end shape, not the dolphin design


    I use one that looks like a dolphin, it works well, I don't ask questions.
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  • ThymThym
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    Lakewood said:

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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    i assume you are referring to the opening end shape, not the dolphin design


    I use one that looks like a dolphin, it works well, I don't ask questions.


    i believe you. no questions. but i'm not branding HBF on the back of a dolphin.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Lakewood said:

    a skull cap like this?
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    Uh, sort of, but less douchy.
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    image

    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    Yea, just like this but replace dolphin with big brass cock.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    a skull cap like this?
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    Uh, sort of, but less douchy.


    you dont like hats with bills?
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    Lakewood said:

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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    i assume you are referring to the opening end shape, not the dolphin design


    I use one that looks like a dolphin, it works well, I don't ask questions.


    i believe you. no questions. but i'm not branding HBF on the back of a dolphin.


    Okay, but if you want a good bottle opener, the dolphin ones are the best I've ever used, also they have a twist top thing on the bottom. I've never used it, but it's there, see:
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  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    Yea, just like this but replace dolphin with big brass cock.


    it'll feel great in your hands....
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
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    Lakewood said:

    Lakewood said:

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    I like this kind, I can reuse caps if I'm careful. Get this kind with logo.



    i assume you are referring to the opening end shape, not the dolphin design


    I use one that looks like a dolphin, it works well, I don't ask questions.


    i believe you. no questions. but i'm not branding HBF on the back of a dolphin.


    Okay, but if you want a good bottle opener, the dolphin ones are the best I've ever used, also they have a twist top thing on the bottom. I've never used it, but it's there, see:
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    hmmmm
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    a skull cap like this?
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    Uh, sort of, but less douchy.


    you dont like hats with bills?


    No, just hats without purple flames, Tinky Winky.
  • ThymThym
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    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    a skull cap like this?
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    Uh, sort of, but less douchy.


    you dont like hats with bills?


    how about this?

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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    It's like looking at a dolphin taint.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    It's like looking at a dolphin taint.


    that taint really a dolphin
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    just get more sun and stop complaining. you need a hat.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • scoobscoob
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    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.
    Jesus didn't wear pants
  • ThymThym
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    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    it's going to be hard to get for a reasonable price... probably have to charge $35 or more
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    Or an embroidered denim jacket!
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  • ThymThym
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    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    Or an embroidered denim jacket!


    $150.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Lakewood said:

    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    it's going to be hard to get for a reasonable price... probably have to charge $35 or more


    $35, WTF? Are you having Americans make it? Isn't there some Chinese company that can make them on the cheap? Isn't that what slinging schwag is all about?
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    Or an embroidered denim jacket!


    $150.

    How many thread colors at that price?
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    it's going to be hard to get for a reasonable price... probably have to charge $35 or more


    $35, WTF? Are you having Americans make it? Isn't there some Chinese company that can make them on the cheap? Isn't that what slinging schwag is all about?


    Sure if you want 12,000 of them, I'm sure the price each would come done
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    You gotta do what you gotta do. Don't force it it if it ain't there.
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Benvarine said:

    You gotta do what you gotta do. Don't force it it if it ain't there.



    so you don't want 12,000 hats?
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Maybe just 10,000
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    it's going to be hard to get for a reasonable price... probably have to charge $35 or more


    $35, WTF? Are you having Americans make it? Isn't there some Chinese company that can make them on the cheap? Isn't that what slinging schwag is all about?


    Sure if you want 12,000 of them, I'm sure the price each would come done


    exactly. well maybe i wouldn't have to buy 12000, but if you want me to get them cheap enough to sell them for $18 or something, i'd have to buy like 200 and sell 100 out the gate. youre gonna buy how many?
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    Maybe just 10,000



    i'll give you a better price than $35 if you buy 10.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    I'm not the retailer, I'm the consumer. I'll take one.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    I'm not the retailer, I'm the consumer. I'll take one.



    ok, that'll be $35 please.
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  • ThymThym
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    and at that, i still lose since i have to buy in a quantity much greater than 1. So yes, my per piece price is less than $35, but considering i MIGHT sell 2 or 3 maybe... i end up with a bunch of beanies and a bill.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • C_BC_B
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    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.

    This. I'm not sure about the "beanie", but a toboggan type winter hat would be cool.
    I think I have what you are referring to as a beanie. But that word scares me.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    azscoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    Lakewood said:

    Benvarine said:

    Maybe one of the preformed bandanna things dirty bikers wear. If you are a biker, yea, I just said that.



    those are from a biker shop...

    just buy a GD hat and shut up. Those embroidered canvas hats look nice.


    Bullshit. Knit skull cap for those of us who don't reside in sunny CA and some mesh backed ball caps, but without the big front.


    An embroidered winter beanie would be sweet.


    it's going to be hard to get for a reasonable price... probably have to charge $35 or more


    $35, WTF? Are you having Americans make it? Isn't there some Chinese company that can make them on the cheap? Isn't that what slinging schwag is all about?


    Sure if you want 12,000 of them, I'm sure the price each would come done


    exactly. well maybe i wouldn't have to buy 12000, but if you want me to get them cheap enough to sell them for $18 or something, i'd have to buy like 200 and sell 100 out the gate. youre gonna buy how many?

    Two.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....
  • ThymThym
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    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Lakewood said:

    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?


    only if its being worn at the time...
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?


    only if its being worn at the time...


    Should I charge extra or give a discount in that case?.... I suppose it depends on who is wearing them...
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ceanntceannt
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    Lakewood said:

    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?


    only if its being worn at the time...


    Should I charge extra or give a discount in that case?.... I suppose it depends on who is wearing them...


    Some ultra hot super model ..... free ....
    Rosie O'Donnell ..... couple grand ....
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?


    only if its being worn at the time...


    Should I charge extra or give a discount in that case?.... I suppose it depends on who is wearing them...


    Some ultra hot super model ..... free ....
    Rosie O'Donnell ..... couple grand ....


    pretty sure she's always commando, but i still agree
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?


    only if its being worn at the time...


    Should I charge extra or give a discount in that case?.... I suppose it depends on who is wearing them...


    Some ultra hot super model ..... free ....
    Rosie O'Donnell ..... couple grand ....


    pretty sure she's always commando, but i still agree


    :-&
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    ceannt said:

    Lakewood said:

    what about some ladies underwear that say "I've been drinking" on the small front and homebrewforums on the booty.....



    Can I write it in sharpie?


    only if its being worn at the time...


    Should I charge extra or give a discount in that case?.... I suppose it depends on who is wearing them...


    Some ultra hot super model ..... free ....
    Rosie O'Donnell ..... couple grand ....


    pretty sure she's always commando, but i still agree


    :-&


    my thoughts exactly
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
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    hats are available in the marketplace
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
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    @benvarine

    $25 interested?

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    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    Like that? Sweet. In the marketplace.
  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    @benvarine

    $25 interested?

    image



    I might buy something like that. Not those colors, but LIKE that.
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  • ThymThym
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    I was thinking the colors would be dark blue with a light blue band. And the logo would be white on the front.

    Let me know if that sounds good, I'll get it listed.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
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    @benvarine @c_dubbs

    See above.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    I was thinking the colors would be dark blue with a light blue band. And the logo would be white on the front.

    Let me know if that sounds good, I'll get it listed.



    That sounds ok? Rough price range?
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  • ThymThym
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    I'm open to color suggestions too.

    Price should be 25 + $1 flat rate shipping. Or within a couple bucks of that.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    can you put a hop cone on it? i just bought a hat from northern brewer with a hop cone it.

    it. is. awesomesauce.
  • ThymThym
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    can you put a hop cone on it? i just bought a hat from northern brewer with a hop cone it.

    it. is. awesomesauce.



    sorry, for now the HBF logo is the beer mug. I dont have a good hop cone line art logo yet.

    I assure you that if you buy the mug logo'd version i will work on a hop cone logo and offer it the next time the manufacturer is offering a good deal on the product.

    im not exactly buying in costco corporate volumes, so i'm at the mercy of the vendors. this offer popped up today, and i remembered that @benvarine was interested in a skull cap, so i wanted to act quick.

    anyway. Orders are ready to be taken on the marketplace:

    http://marketplace.homebrewforums.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_13&products_id=10

    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
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    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny