Bum Wine
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    i have a 3 gallon better bottle that's been sitting completely empty for a long time now and i'd like to make some cheapo bum wine in it.

    what should i use? it's going to have to be store bought juice, as i don't have a press or grapes or any other fruit for that matter.

    i was thinkin maybe get some grape juice and mix in a little cherry juice, or pom, blueberry, ect?

    whacha think? if it sucks i can always use it for cooking, works great in my water smoker.

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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    or would a white wine be easier/tastier from store juice? maybe add some pears to the white grape juice cans. sounds ok, but will it work?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    i'm prepared to store this hooch for a long while to make the flavor less prison-y than i expect it to taste when it's fermented out.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Don't forget, needs to be cheap!
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    just grab the cheapest juice you want, pitch 71-B or K1V yeast, have ec-1118 on hand in case of a stall or if it just doesn't drop it as low as you want, then let 'er rip.
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    it won't be prison-y at all, that flavor comes from crappy yeast
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    cool. so which one should be ready quicker, a red or a white?
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    generally a white if you're talking grape juice.
    aerate gently on 2 and 5th days of ferment and keep the ferm temp low, like 60, for fastest drinkability and flavor.
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Frozen concentrate juice is the way to go if cheap is the name of the game. Apple and sugar make a drink worth getting drunk on. Grape is good too. If you like dry (and lazy) just start with the ec-1118, just make sure it's cool and has enough nutrients, i've gotten some nasty crap from that yeast (ethyl-acetate) .

    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    I made some crap wine with apple juice concentrate and sugar. It didn't turn out so good, so I though I'd concentrate it and back sweeten. It's still the the freezer.... I should do something with that, it's taking up a lot of space.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:


    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).



    no. just, no.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:


    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).



    no. just, no.


    yeah, why even bother. just buy the cheap 4 dollar a bottle vodka and dump in some grape juice. cheaper overall and kill you just as fast!
  • ceanntceannt
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    This thread gives me a roaring headache just reading it
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    This thread gives me a roaring headache just reading it



    so you're saying you want a bottle? ;)
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:


    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).



    no. just, no.


    You said bum wine, if I knew how to make Thunderbird I'd let you know, but I just can't figure out how something clear can turn the inside of your mouth black.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:


    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).



    no. just, no.


    You said bum wine, if I knew how to make Thunderbird I'd let you know, but I just can't figure out how something clear can turn the inside of your mouth black.


    heroin.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:


    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).



    no. just, no.


    You said bum wine, if I knew how to make Thunderbird I'd let you know, but I just can't figure out how something clear can turn the inside of your mouth black.


    heroin.


    No, that's expensive, it must be something like lighter fluid, or antifreeze.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    FromZwolle said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:


    If you're going for more of a Night Train make it with (by sugar content) 60% grape/40% white sugar. Add sulfates then freeze concentrate and back sweeten with more grape juice concentrate (to taste).



    no. just, no.


    You said bum wine, if I knew how to make Thunderbird I'd let you know, but I just can't figure out how something clear can turn the inside of your mouth black.


    heroin.


    No, that's expensive, it must be something like lighter fluid, or antifreeze.


    maybe expensive around you....
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    so i finally got my yeast for this. going to put it all together this week or weekend.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    FromZwolle said:

    so i finally got my yeast for this. going to put it all together this week or weekend.



    Turbo yeast?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    nope.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    FromZwolle said:

    nope.



    well that's good.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    bum wine has been racked to secondaries. now to wait a bit....
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  • piping_pigpiping_pig
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    FromZwolle said:

    bum wine has been racked to secondaries. now to wait a bit....



    I'm interested to see how this turns out
  • morsmors
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    This sounds terrible... Though I will admit I did make a batch of 'mead' using nothing but table sugar to create about 9% dry booze (with nutrient additions like I was making a mead.) I then back sweetened the stuff with some orange blossom honey. This created an excellent tasting 'mead'.... lol.

    It all came about because I was reading alot of things from people that encouraged making mead with really cheap honey and then just back sweetening with good honey. So I logically deduced that table sugar should work too... it did...
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    mors said:

    This sounds terrible... Though I will admit I did make a batch of 'mead' using nothing but table sugar to create about 9% dry booze (with nutrient additions like I was making a mead.) I then back sweetened the stuff with some orange blossom honey. This created an excellent tasting 'mead'.... lol.

    It all came about because I was reading alot of things from people that encouraged making mead with really cheap honey and then just back sweetening with good honey. So I logically deduced that table sugar should work too... it did...



    yay for hooch! i tasted both the red and white when i racked them. meh.

    neither is great, nor are they bad. i'm pretty sure they could benefit from some acid addition and some oak for the red, but i'm not going to do anything until they've sat around for a while longer.
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  • 60minuteSamC60minuteSamC
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    you could mix that with some crappy beer and then bottle it and sell it for tons of money if you find a bunch of dummies willing to worship whatever crap you put out.

    frydogbrews
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    60minuteSamC said:

    you could mix that with some crappy beer and then bottle it and sell it for tons of money if you find a bunch of dummies willing to worship whatever crap you put out.



    don't forget the honey! then you can charge $12 for a four pack.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    FromZwolle said:

    mors said:

    This sounds terrible... Though I will admit I did make a batch of 'mead' using nothing but table sugar to create about 9% dry booze (with nutrient additions like I was making a mead.) I then back sweetened the stuff with some orange blossom honey. This created an excellent tasting 'mead'.... lol.

    It all came about because I was reading alot of things from people that encouraged making mead with really cheap honey and then just back sweetening with good honey. So I logically deduced that table sugar should work too... it did...



    yay for hooch! i tasted both the red and white when i racked them. meh.

    neither is great, nor are they bad. i'm pretty sure they could benefit from some acid addition and some oak for the red, but i'm not going to do anything until they've sat around for a while longer.


    i didn't do any of that. mostly because of laziness, but partly because of more laziness.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    So fz .... whats going on with the bum wine?



    bottled it up on saturday.


    FromZwolle said:

    went with sparkling on the white



    FromZwolle said:

    so i'll test em out in a few weeks.



    FromZwolle said:

    if they're crappy, i've got three gallons of cooking red, and three gallons of fizzy stuff for mixing drinks.



    FromZwolle said:

    so either way, i'm calling it worth it.


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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    never cook with a wine you don't enjoy drinking!
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    put bad stuff on ice and mix it 50/50 with sprite, good 'nuff
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    frydogbrews said:

    never cook with a wine you don't enjoy drinking!



    Goes for beer too. I had a terrible Brett beer, added it to some sausage I was cooking, big mistake. Ruined the sausage too. It's hard to ruin good pork sausage, but I found a way.
  • C_BC_B
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    frydogbrews said:

    put bad stuff on ice and mix it 50/50 with sprite, good 'nuff


    Interesting.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Benvarine said:

    frydogbrews said:

    never cook with a wine you don't enjoy drinking!



    Goes for beer too. I had a terrible Brett beer, added it to some sausage I was cooking, big mistake. Ruined the sausage too. It's hard to ruin good pork sausage, but I found a way.


    i did that with a skunked beer. it was gross.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    frydogbrews said:

    never cook with a wine you don't enjoy drinking!



    don't tell me what to do!
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    frydogbrews said:

    put bad stuff on ice and mix it 50/50 with sprite, good 'nuff



    i don't drink sprite, but i plan to mix em with juice or whatever if i don't like it. maybe i'll mix up a few cocktails and carbonate them in a soda bottle or something.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    frydogbrews said:

    put bad stuff on ice and mix it 50/50 with sprite, good 'nuff


    I did that with skunked beer. It was better...
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Did anything happen with the bum wine project?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Did anything happen with the bum wine project?



    it's all bottled up now. i cooked with one of the sparkling white bottles.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    from the room temp sip i took before dumping the bottle into the pot, it wasn't half bad. i might just chill some this weekend and do a real taste test.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    so i tried the sparkling white bum wine. not too shabby!

    it tastes like white wine. a little fruity, a littly winey. nice bubbles. i'm calling it a win.

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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    i'll get to the red sooner or later.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    tried the red last night. #-o

    very watery and thin tasting.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    oh, well. now i have plenty of cooking wine, which was what i would have used most of it for anyway.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    FromZwolle said:

    tried the red last night. #-o

    very watery and thin tasting.



    needs acid. sprinkle some acid blend into the next sample. just a pinch and dissolve it. then see where its at.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    frydogbrews said:

    FromZwolle said:

    tried the red last night. #-o

    very watery and thin tasting.



    needs acid. sprinkle some acid blend into the next sample. just a pinch and dissolve it. then see where its at.


    probably. but that's not going to happen. it's already bottled.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    it's cooking wine now.
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