Olde Ceannt’s Holiday Hybrid Hooch
  • ceanntceannt
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    (original recipe)

    3-gallons unfiltered apple juice (straight from the orchard)
    3-pounds LME
    3-pounds Honey
    1.5-pound Crystal Malt 60
    0.50-oz EKG Hops, 15-min. (optional, I suggest leaving out)
    S-05-yeast (going to try with S-04)

    At bottling add:
    ½-tsp cinnamon
    ¼-tsp cloves
    ¼- tsp nutmeg
    (add to boiling water, and run through coffee filter)

    Steep the crystal malt for 45 minutes at 155 degrees in 2-quarts of water. Sparge once with 1-quart at 170 degrees. Boil the runnings for half an hour, then add the LME and boil for an additional 15 minutes. Allow to cool to less than 120 degrees and add the honey. Pour into fermenter and add the apple juice. Allow to ferment in Primary for 2-3 months.
    Age for at least a year after bottling.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    what kinda LME?

    also, this sounds like poison, but i'm still gonna make some.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Hah.... just plain ole "light" LME
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ok, good. i think i'll try to use the amber lme and skip the mash all together. that would make it much quicker, and bring the booze levels back into the mortal realm.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    well, almost.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Long as you get a good bit of residual sweetness out of the amber you'll do ok.... otherwise this stuff gets really really dry ...
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    Long as you get a good bit of residual sweetness out of the amber you'll do ok.... otherwise this stuff gets really really dry ...



    i've never had an over attenuation problem with lme. especially if you pour it into the bottom of the pot and let it sit for a few minutes before stirring it up.
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  • C_BC_B
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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    Long as you get a good bit of residual sweetness out of the amber you'll do ok.... otherwise this stuff gets really really dry ...



    i've never had an over attenuation problem with lme. especially if you pour it into the bottom of the pot and let it sit for a few minutes before stirring it up.

    Interesting.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ok, i picked up some lme for this, should maybe brew it tomorrow or sunday.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    not a fan of cinnamon and clove, though. i was thinking more like throw in a vanilla bean with the nutmeg and maybe a few star anise?

    i also have allspice and anise seed. thoughts?
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  • C_BC_B
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    I'm not sure about all that other stuff, but I like vanilla in most things. A hint of it here seems like a good idea.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Actually given some thought to ginger in this
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    Actually given some thought to ginger in this



    nooooooooooooooooooooooo!


    but only because i hate ginger. it would probably fit nicely.
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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    Actually given some thought to ginger in this



    nooooooooooooooooooooooo!


    but only because i hate ginger. it would probably fit nicely.


    Hah!
    It would fit ...
    The stuff I normally put in is so little ... you really don't taste it ... but Pick it up in the aroma ....
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    And yet another thing to add to the 'to do' list....
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    What is the total volume of this? It looks like around 3-4 gallons. Is that right?
  • ceanntceannt
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    Benvarine said:

    What is the total volume of this? It looks like around 3-4 gallons. Is that right?



    Yeah... just a little under 4 gallons
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    5 gallon Carboy still good. No issue with the head space? What is the ABV? Do you use 12, 22 or wine bottles to age? It sounds great, I think I may try, just wanted some more details.
  • ceanntceannt
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    I use a 6 gallon carboy .... puts out a huge krausen ..... huge.
    ..
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Apv is between 11 and 11.5 depending on the apple juice .... I just put it in beer bottles
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    Krausen is weird too ... stratifies into darker and almost white layers ... looks like a pumpkin roll
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    what's the carb level on this? still, low, or fizzy?
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I do it still .... but might be good with a little fizz
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    I do it still .... but might be good with a little fizz



    i like bubbles, so i'll probably go medium carb. that way if i want less i'll pour a little aggressively.
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  • ThymThym
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    light fizz sounds good with this one.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    FromZwolle said:

    not a fan of cinnamon and clove, though. i was thinking more like throw in a vanilla bean with the nutmeg and maybe a few star anise?

    i also have allspice and anise seed. thoughts?



    too late for thoughts. it's done. been on tap for three weeks now.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    so far, not a fan. maybe with another 6 months or so, it would come around but i don't think i'll ever love it.

    it's the spices. i should have omitted them, especially since i don't like any kind of spiced beverage.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    under the spice flavor (which is subtle), this is a tasty beverage.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    The good news is that the wife likes it!

    The bad news is that it's deceptively strong.

    Which is actually good news (for me).






    can you say panty dropper?
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  • ceanntceannt
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    It typically takes a year to really get good
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Two years is even better ....
    And yes it is deceptively strong ...........
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    It typically takes a year to really get good



    i'm going to bottle some up for extended aging.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    but it's keeping the wife away from my beer and making her pliable to my sinister will, so i'll let her have most of the keg.

    ;)
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    FromZwolle said:

    but it's keeping the wife away from my beer and making her pliable to my sinister will, so i'll let her have most of the keg.

    ;)



    Ha!
    Sounds like you need to start another batch!
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Oh.... and you're welcome ;)
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    but it's keeping the wife away from my beer and making her pliable to my sinister will, so i'll let her have most of the keg.

    ;)



    Ha!
    Sounds like you need to start another batch!


    ceannt said:

    Oh.... and you're welcome ;)




    way cheaper than jewelry!
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  • ceanntceannt
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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    but it's keeping the wife away from my beer and making her pliable to my sinister will, so i'll let her have most of the keg.

    ;)



    Ha!
    Sounds like you need to start another batch!


    ceannt said:

    Oh.... and you're welcome ;)




    way cheaper than jewelry!


    And probably more effective in the long term
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    Yay, more kids.
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    Lakewood said:

    Yay, more kids.



    Great.... now I'm going to start being blamed for overpopulation...
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  • ceanntceannt
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    So... I told a buddy Fz's story with this....
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  • ceanntceannt
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    After he was finished laughing... he suggested that I rename this concoction "Panty Dropper"
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    Since I never really named it... I just may
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    here's the french translation (from the internets, so i don't know if it's true.)

    compte-gouttes de culotte

    sounds classy!
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    FromZwolle said:

    here's the french translation (from the internets, so i don't know if it's true.)

    compte-gouttes de culotte

    sounds classy!



    Classy? Sounds more like the sounds you utter after imbibing way too much .....
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    here's the french translation (from the internets, so i don't know if it's true.)

    compte-gouttes de culotte

    sounds classy!



    Classy? Sounds more like the sounds you utter after imbibing way too much .....


    oh, i thought you already knew! French is just latin spoken after several bottles of fine wine.
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    Too funny
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  • ceanntceannt
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    so... won't be long till the nice folks at the orchard have fresh pressed apple juice!!!! I am all a twitter with anticipation...

    This years batch will contain amber LME... no steeped crystal grains and no hops...
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  • ceanntceannt
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    with luck it will not take as long to age out
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I now am in possession of everything I need except the apple juice... I picked up a "sample" gallon last week-end at the orchard to check it out.... it is spectacular this year!!!! Very much looking forward to starting it!
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    OH.... I also on a whim... decided to try out S-33 yeast on this batch... it is supposed to be able to handle high alcohol levels...
    I have one of the small packets of K1V in the fridge too.... thinking about mixing????
    Any thoughts on this hare-brained idea??????????
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    OH.... I also on a whim... decided to try out S-33 yeast on this batch... it is supposed to be able to handle high alcohol levels...
    I have one of the small packets of K1V in the fridge too.... thinking about mixing????
    Any thoughts on this hare-brained idea??????????



    I don't really have any experience with those yeasts. But generally the high alcohol tolerance ones are a little hotter and more estery, so I would use the K1V to start thena when fermentation slows, add the S-33 to finish it off.
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    The only other time I used S-33 was in a fairly big beer and it finished pretty clean .... but it wasn't near this big .....
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I will take your suggestion under consideration
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  • ceanntceannt
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    OK ... so I just used the S-33 ......
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  • ceanntceannt
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    ******WARNING *******

    This is a very vigorous yeast ..... rig up a blowoff tube if you use it for this stuff ...
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Or you will wake up to this
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    2560 x 1920 - 985K
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    Or you will wake up to this



    YOUR FERMENTER FELL OVER??
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Lakewood said:

    ceannt said:

    Or you will wake up to this



    YOUR FERMENTER FELL OVER??


    aaahhhhhh!
    no goofball
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  • scoobscoob
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    Really need to make this stuff
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I need to take a gravity sample of my latest batch.... see where it is.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    thinking of racking this batch, there are a bunch of solids. I'll let it settle out in a clean carboy, for a bit before I bottle
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