Fermented hot sauce
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    in my never ending quest to ferment everything, i started 3.5 pounds of bhut jolokai and red savina habaneros fermenting today.
    they haven't actually started fermenting yet (i assume) but they will soon.
    i just grabbed all the hot peppers i had in stashed in my freezer from last year.
    this is very easy...
    put hot peppers in food processor, blurr up on high....mix with salt and put in large jar or bowl or something you can cover with cheesecloth.
    then you cover it with cheesecloth
    then forget it exists for two months
    then mix some vinegar in
    forget it for another month
    then strain off and keep all the liquids, i plan on putting into and old hop bag and squeezing the hell out of it. (then throw bag away) i suggest doing something dastardly with the insanely hot pepper "mash"....

    ta-freaking-da......its hot sauce!
    rely on the yeast in the air and on the peppers to ferment, no real need to add yeast to this, although you can if you want.
    i put in 10 grams of salt for every 300 grams of chili's. and i will add 125 ml of vinegar for every 300 grams of chili's after two months of fermenting.
    i can't commment yet on how well this works, but i have read great things about it and i will keep this updated as things happen.

    for me, it was an excellent use for all the hot peppers i didn't use from last year.
    may as well give it a try.
  • ThymThym
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    i was thinking about this recently. i shall await your results.

    this sounds like it will be hell on earth hot. i might go for a more flavorful mix of less toxic peppers
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  • scoobscoob
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    This sounds really good, I have a boatload of habaneros I need to do something with, this might be it!
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    being so dry and hot out there scoob, you may want to add yeast.
    i don't know though, is there much yeast in the air out there?
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    frydogbrews said:

    being so dry and hot out there scoob, you may want to add yeast.
    i don't know though, is there much yeast in the air out there?



    the expensive tequilas are open fermented by natural yeasts, so i'm guessing yes. i'd still add some, but they should be there.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Lakewood said:


    this sounds like it will be hell on earth hot. i might go for a more flavorful mix of less toxic peppers



    this.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Wonder how this would be with cayenne peppers....
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  • ceanntceannt
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    ceannt said:

    Wonder how this would be with cayenne peppers....



    I may try this ..... maybe put a couple of habeneros in too
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    Wonder how this would be with cayenne peppers....



    spicy.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    here is some more reading about this and where i got the idea from.
    http://frombellytobacon.com/2012/07/19/ghost-chili-and-habanero-hot-sauce/
  • ThymThym
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    My only concern with open ferment is that it seems like I'd have a mold colony long before I had a yeast colony.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Lakewood said:

    My only concern with open ferment is that it seems like I'd have a mold colony long before I had a yeast colony.



    keep the top wet and mold will have a much harder time growing. just swirl the container once a day.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    yeah, the salt helps with that and i think the ridonkulous heat of the thing helps too.
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    ceannt said:

    Wonder how this would be with cayenne peppers....


    I have quite a few cayenne peppers from the garden, I may have to give it a go.
    Some guy I know who has a blog did something like this a few months back I'll see if I can find it... aha, here it is.
    http://oilchanges.blogspot.com/2012/08/green-habenero-hot-sauce-phase-one.html
    And the conclusion:
    http://oilchanges.blogspot.com/2012/09/green-habenero-hot-sauce-phase-two.html

    And word to the wise. If you have a juicer, never put habeneros in it. They work almost like a humidifier and put many particles into the air... this makes for a cloud of pepper spray which hurts your eyes, nose, and lungs a lot.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    ceannt said:

    Wonder how this would be with cayenne peppers....


    I have quite a few cayenne peppers from the garden, I may have to give it a go.
    Some guy I know who has a blog did something like this a few months back I'll see if I can find it... aha, here it is.
    http://oilchanges.blogspot.com/2012/08/green-habenero-hot-sauce-phase-one.html
    And the conclusion:
    http://oilchanges.blogspot.com/2012/09/green-habenero-hot-sauce-phase-two.html

    And word to the wise. If you have a juicer, never put habeneros in it. They work almost like a humidifier and put many particles into the air... this makes for a cloud of pepper spray which hurts your eyes, nose, and lungs a lot.


    so, in other words, everybody do it and post the video here. >:)
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  • ThymThym
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    Home made tear gas.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Be a great treatment for a bad head cold .....
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    ceannt said:

    Be a great treatment for a bad head cold .....



    That's what I was thinking the second time I tried it worked great but the thing is, my eyes weren't clogged up.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    ceannt said:

    Be a great treatment for a bad head cold .....



    That's what I was thinking the second time I tried it worked great but the thing is, my eyes weren't clogged up.


    Uh.... reckon you didn't think to keep your eyes closed?
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    bumping this up because i am ready to bottle now.

    i ended up adding a tablespoon of bread yeast to the whole thing because i didn't see signs of fermentation after a few days. after adding that, it lit up like crazy and followed the path i outlined in the original post.

    bottom line, this stuff is fantastic. its complex flavored, and hotter than hell. i've made many hot sauces but this is the first time fermenting one and its also the first time it had the taste and texture of a high class hot sauce.

    another thing i changed was instead of straining it and just bottling the liquids, i just hit the whole thing with a stick blender until it was silky smooth. waste not want not.

    bottled a sample jar yesterday for a buddy that's a bit of a connoisseur and he really liked it, so its a win!

    ordered two cases of jars and plan on boiling it for just a second to kill all yeast and then packing it hot in the jars. its shelf stable because of the pH so it doesn't need a boiling water bath or anything.

    i highly recommend trying this if you have some peppers around. next time i am going to ferment some carrots along with the peppers for sweetness. i like carrots with my hot sauce. you can't taste them, but they add a special something.
  • jlwjlw
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    I too love a carrot based hot sauce. So tasty.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    I too love a carrot based hot sauce. So tasty.



    yep. i made some several years ago with carrot and habaneros. it was too spicy (to me) for about a year, but then it was fantastic.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    i think i might just try a small batch of fermented stuff with some various peppers/chilis. not melt your face off spicy, though.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    next time i am just going to sprinkle in a little lactobaccillus instead of using bread yeast, but i didn't have any around when i made this up originally
  • jlwjlw
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    I always end up with an abundance of hot peppers. Especially chilli's and habanero's. This coming summer I may take a mixture of each and make a hot sauce.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    frydogbrews said:

    next time i am just going to sprinkle in a little lactobaccillus instead of using bread yeast, but i didn't have any around when i made this up originally



    i always have some frozen buttermilk on hand. lactobaccillus bulgaricus, is that a suitable culture to use?
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    FromZwolle said:

    frydogbrews said:

    next time i am just going to sprinkle in a little lactobaccillus instead of using bread yeast, but i didn't have any around when i made this up originally



    i always have some frozen buttermilk on hand. lactobaccillus bulgaricus, is that a suitable culture to use?


    should work just fine.
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