Home Smoked Grain
  • scoobscoob
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    Picture it, summer is finally drawing to a close, the summer heat of Arizona starts to wane..... my mind turns to the fall, memories of growing up back east, smelling burning leaves, people starting to use their fireplaces on a chill autumn night, this gets my mouth watering for a perennial favorite of mine: Rauchbier, or smoked beer. And the beauty is there are no boundries, it could be a smoked porter, IPA, even a wheat beer!

    After several lackluster smoked beer attempts using commercially available smoked malts, I decided that what I really needed was more control over my smoke profile.

    The solution was to rev up my smoker and get some grain into it, here is a basic how-to, with pics to follow:

    I started by getting the quantity I could fit on my smoker at a depth of about a 1/2 inch. for me it was 3 lbs.

    I had a roll of stainless steel window screen knocking around in the garage so I made up a couple mesh cookie sheet-like racks to hold the grain while allowing maximum smoke contact with the grain, however I would imagine a standard cookie sheet or throw away aluminum roasting pan or two would work fine.

    Next I weighed out the grain and poured it into a bucket and added some distilled water to it, I was concerned with getting the grain good and wet since it would dry out during smoking. I left the grain in the bucket for about a half hour, giving it a stir with my hand every 5 minutes or so, you want to have soaked husks and some absorption into the grain itself, so there was a little standing water in the bucket that could be seen in the first few times I stirred.

    I got the wet grain spread out on my mesh pans, (glad I made them smaller, with the water soaked grain they can get a bit tough to move without collapse.) I got them on the smoker shortly after adding the smoking wood and chimney full of lit lump coal. Keeping the temp around 225-250 degrees, I hit the grain pretty heavy with the smoke for the duration figuring I could use less grain if heavily smoked.

    Every half hour I would do a quick stir to get even smoke to all the grain and to check the moisture level of the grain, for me it took 2 hours to get the grain back to a dry state that could be easily stored without worry till it was ready to use.

    Some questions I have had from people inquiring about the process is what grain is best? I go with cheap 2-row because I am using it mostly for the smoke flavor, I have other malts for other attributes, but it never hurts to experiment!

    Another question is what smoking wood to use? I say use whatever the heck you want, its your beer! Use your favorite smoking wood or experiment a little with new woods or a combination of woods, maybe try adding some rosemary or sage if you want, you may stumble on a killer smoked malt recipe!

    I have used this process multiple times to smoke up some base malt that has gone into many different beers with great success, and I constantly get comments on how they have never had a smoked beer like that, I credit the flavor to fresh smoked grain and to bold smoking wood choices.

    I highly recommend using a vacuum packer to store the grain, and to keep it separate from your other malts because even in the vacuum bag you may still get some smoke notes through the bag.

    I hope this little write up inspires you to try your hand at smoking your own grains, and if you have never tried a smoked beer perhaps this has given you a spark of curiosity to seek out a bottle or two to try, who knows... you might fall in love with a lesser known beer style that may bring you back to a cold autumn night long forgotten...
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Thanks AZ, I'm was trying to put together a cold smoker today. I also have a downed apple tree :D, though I plan to try some maple and peat too.
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  • ThymThym
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    i may just have to try my hand at this, although my first experiment with smoked malts was some peated malt I used in an IPA base. I called it an Imperial Peated Bitter. it was terrible.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Cool. Good work AZ. I smoked some malt over Hickory once.... used very little charcoal to keep the heat way down, and didn't soak the grain first.... still turned out pretty good. I didn't do enough grain though.....
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    i still have some wild cherry wood that i've been saving for this. i loved a good smoked porter. :)
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    smoked ipa?
    who has done this and had it turn out good?
    i must know if this is possible!
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    smoked ipa?
    who has done this and had it turn out good?
    i must know if this is possible!



    Can't say I've tried it, but it sounds like it could work if you were careful. I feel smokey flavors balance nicely with more malty beers (i.e. Scottish ale) and over doing smoke can be really bad. I'd suggest playing with some liquid smoke extract and an IPA before brewing. I think it could work if done just right, but please be careful.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    but please be careful.



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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    smoked ipa?
    who has done this and had it turn out good?
    i must know if this is possible!



    Can't say I've tried it, but it sounds like it could work if you were careful. I feel smokey flavors balance nicely with more malty beers (i.e. Scottish ale) and over doing smoke can be really bad. I'd suggest playing with some liquid smoke extract and an IPA before brewing. I think it could work if done just right, but please be careful.


    for real though, that's a good idea. i can try dropping some liquid smoke in my ipa. i will experiment tomorrow. the difficulty i see, if that even tastes good, is then deciding how to extrapolate the amount of liquid smoke to the amount of smoked grain
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    for real though, that's a good idea. i can try dropping some liquid smoke in my ipa. i will experiment tomorrow. the difficulty i see, if that even tastes good, is then deciding how to extrapolate the amount of liquid smoke to the amount of smoked grain



    The trick is comparing it to what a strong brown ale would take. I mean it's a shot in the dark, but you might find that about half of what works in a brown, works in an IPA. Then look at some recipe for smoked brown ales and add half... or something like that. But really it's better to have not enough smoke than too much.
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  • scoobscoob
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    I have brewed this many times, pretty simple recipe that works well with the smoke.

    http://www.homebrewforums.net/discussion/44/my-burning-ryes-smoked-ryepa#Item_2

    maybe base the proportions off it and hop to your tastes?
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    AZ, so you hot smoke and that is why you wet the grain first? I've made some crystal malt that I plan on smoking, but I've made a little cold smoker I plan to use. Is there any reason not to do this dry?
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  • scoobscoob
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    AZ, so you hot smoke and that is why you wet the grain first? I've made some crystal malt that I plan on smoking, but I've made a little cold smoker I plan to use. Is there any reason not to do this dry?



    I can't see why not! I don't have a cold smoker (unless you count running a long dryer tube from the chimney of my smoker into a cardboard box) I may give cold smoking a try next time I set up to smoke a few pork bellies.
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