How fast does apple juice take to ferment?
  • scoobscoob
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    I added 5 gallons of Apple juice to a Nottingham yeast cake.

    I thought maybe I should use a blowoff tube so a couple hours later I switched from an airlock to a blowoff tube, I saw yeast swirling around already so I know fermentation started....

    I checked in on it the next day after work, about 22 hours after adding the apple juice and there was no activity, the juice was quite hazy and there were a few bubble rafts on top but there was a big cake on the bottom, nothing from the blowoff tube in the way of bubbles, and no ring that indicated some sort of krausen buildup.

    Could it have fermented out that fast? It was in the ferm chamber at 60 degrees the whole time.

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  • ceanntceannt
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    Take a gravity sample
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  • scoobscoob
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    ceannt said:

    Take a gravity sample



    I should.....

    What should it drop to?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    scoob said:

    ceannt said:

    Take a gravity sample



    I should.....

    What should it drop to?


    if it's finished, less than 1.002
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    possibly down to .999, though it probably won't go that far with beer yeast.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Yep ...with Notty, I would guess around 1 with a bunch of zeros...
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  • ThymThym
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    Regardless of where it will truelly finish, a gravity sample will tell you if it fermented, stalled or never really started.

    If its below 1.005, it fermented.....
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  • scoobscoob
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    Gravity sample is as follows:

    OG: 1.052
    Sample gravity tonight: 1.003
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  • scoobscoob
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    It fermented, now to forget about it for a while right?

    Or is it good to go once it clears?
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    scoob said:

    It fermented, now to forget about it for a while right?

    Or is it good to go once it clears?


    Better to give it a little age, but fine and dandy once clear.
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  • ThymThym
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    Let it age = best
    Let it clear = good
    Get drunk tonight = good enough
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    And add this to the brew log.
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  • scoobscoob
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    I guess I could move it to the basement floor in a corner and start a second batch with my cheap juice. Maybe add in some dme? There is a name for that I'm sure, but no idea what, I'm a cider noob.

    Aside from some Apfelwien that I forgot for near 2years, it's my first cider foray.
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  • ThymThym
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    Cyser
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Lakewood said:

    Cyser



    cyser is apple juice and honey.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    Cyser



    That's mead cider.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    also very delicious, you should make some.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    also very delicious, you should make some.



    Yeah, make that thing lake thinks is something else.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Graff
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  • ceanntceannt
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    The stuff I make has both .... I just call it hooch since there ain't no fancy pants name fer it
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  • scoobscoob
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    And add this to the brew log.



    On it!
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  • ceanntceannt
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    And yes .... forget about it for a little while .... just check it often .... don't let the air lock dry up!
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    ceannt said:

    The stuff I make has both .... I just call it hooch since there ain't no fancy pants name fer it



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  • scoobscoob
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    ceannt said:

    The stuff I make has both .... I just call it hooch since there ain't no fancy pants name fer it



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  • scoobscoob
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    Next batch, graff it is!
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  • scoobscoob
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    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    scoob said:

    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?



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  • scoobscoob
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    Lakewood said:

    Let it age = best
    Let it clear = good
    Get drunk tonight = good enough



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  • scoobscoob
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    scoob said:

    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?



    It's a free country, unless you make duck calls.

    Well played, getting pulled from your own show for being honest in an interview
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    Graff



    Yes, that's the right word.


    The other stuff is good too.
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    scoob said:

    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?



    It's a free country, unless you make duck calls.


    He's free to say what he wants, A&E is free to boot his ass.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    scoob said:

    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?



    It's a free country, unless you make duck calls.


    He's free to say what he wants, A&E is free to boot his ass.


    No, I think being on a TV show is what the first amendment is about.
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.
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    Lakewood said:

    scoob said:

    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?



    It's a free country, unless you make duck calls.


    He's free to say what he wants, A&E is free to boot his ass.


    No, I think being on a TV show is what the first amendment is about.


    it is every mans inalienable right to be on television. i've chosen CBS for my show, they have no recourse but to broadcast it.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Fermented in 16 hours? Nuts.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    Lakewood said:

    scoob said:

    As for the air lock drying out.... Can I keg it, purge with co2 and roll it in a corner for a few months?



    It's a free country, unless you make duck calls.


    He's free to say what he wants, A&E is free to boot his ass.


    No, I think being on a TV show is what the first amendment is about.


    it is every mans inalienable right to be on television. i've chosen CBS for my show, they have no recourse but to broadcast it.


    If they don't go to the supreme Court and have judge Judy tell them how it works.
    "I don't have TP, but I do have ammo."
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.
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  • scoobscoob
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    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.


    What do you use to kill off the yeast?
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  • scoobscoob
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    scoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.


    What do you use to kill off the yeast?



    I didn't type that hello, and it's not in the quote...

    Ghosts???

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  • scoobscoob
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    There it is again!
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    scoob said:

    There it is again!



    Ha!
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    scoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.


    What do you use to kill off the yeast?


    His good looks.
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  • scoobscoob
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    scoob said:

    There it is again!



    Now they are gone
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    scoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.


    What do you use to kill off the yeast?


    careful racking into a keg and a fairly flocculant yeast strain. fridge temps keep it from doing much of anything.
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  • scoobscoob
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    scoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.


    What do you use to kill off the yeast?


    careful racking into a keg and a fairly flocculant yeast strain. fridge temps keep it from doing much of anything.


    Well feck, I was thinking I would need to break out the chemistry set..... That's simple enough for me!
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    scoob said:

    scoob said:

    Benvarine said:

    The graff I made was similar. Second runnings/partyguile of a Barleywine with 2 g of apple juice on a Nottingham yeast cake. Turned out okay. I back sweetened some with honey, tasted better. It was very dry.



    i like mine backsweetened just a tad. usually one can of apple juice concentrate per 5 gallons is right on the money for my tastes.


    What do you use to kill off the yeast?


    careful racking into a keg and a fairly flocculant yeast strain. fridge temps keep it from doing much of anything.


    Well feck, I was thinking I would need to break out the chemistry set..... That's simple enough for me!


    If you want to pasteurize it drop the keg in you boil kettle full of boiling water and cut the flame. Take a temp of the water ten minutes later and if it's 10f or more above a yeast kill step your done. If not repeat with it pre warmed or with the flame on for a little bit, it'll likely work the first try.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Or you could build a continuous flow pasteurizer. Basically a small counter flow chiller with a place for thermometer so you know it's working.
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