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Irish Red partial mash
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    I want to brew @ceannt 's Traditional Irish Red in a 10 gallon batch but I don't want to have to build my new MLT yet. So here is a bastard PM recipe that keeps my grain bill under 13 lbs to fit in my current 5 gallon MLT. I could actually fit 15 pounds I think if I mashed thick.

    Malt & Fermentables
    % LB OZ °L PPG
    52% 10 8 Golden Promise Mash 2° 32
    39% 7 14 Extra Light Dry Extract Late Boil 3° 44
    4% 0 14 Crystal 60L Mash 60° 34
    4% 0 12 Crystal 20L Mash 20° 34
    2% 0 6 Roasted Barley - 550L Mash 550° 34
    13lbs grain

    Specific Gravity
    1.065 OG
    15.9° Plato
    1.018 FG

    Hops
    Usage Time OZ AA » IBU
    boil 60 min 2 East Kent Goldings ~ pellet 5.8 » 20.6
    boil 5 min 1 Fuggles ~ pellet 4.3 » 1.5

    Bitterness
    22.2 IBU


    I'm new at recipe formulation. I can't really look at a grain bill and know what it should taste like. And I'm completely guessing at the extract sub for GP. What is the best sub for GP? Is there one really?

    Thoughts, tweaks, concerns appreciated.


    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • ceanntceannt
    29071.00 KarmaPosts: 19,172
    Believe it or not I developed a partial mash version of mine...... I think it just used plain old light extract .... let me look at my notes ... and I will let you know monday morning
    From the sweat of man, and God's love.... beer came into the world
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    My concern is the what will be lost with extract over Golden Promise. Since it isn't a 100% sub, I suppose it might be ok. But I really just don't know anything about recipe formulation/adjustment.
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • ceanntceannt
    29071.00 KarmaPosts: 19,172 Accepted Answer
    Max out your mash tun with all the specialty grains ... and as much GP as will fit .... make up the difference with plain extract to get your O.G.
    From the sweat of man, and God's love.... beer came into the world
  • ceanntceannt
    29071.00 KarmaPosts: 19,172
    Mash a couple degrees higher ... to make up for the greater attenuation of the extract
    From the sweat of man, and God's love.... beer came into the world
  • ceanntceannt
    29071.00 KarmaPosts: 19,172
    Boil your first runnings .... do a 20 minute sparge rest .... you will loose a little flavor ... but if you follow the above ... and "squeeze" as much flavor as possible out of what you mash ... it will be good
    From the sweat of man, and God's love.... beer came into the world
  • ceanntceannt
    29071.00 KarmaPosts: 19,172
    Oh.... add the extract late ... 15 minutes left in the boil
    From the sweat of man, and God's love.... beer came into the world
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    Boiling the first running.... Just bring to a boil and shut off or boil until I add the second and third runnings?

    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • ceanntceannt
    29071.00 KarmaPosts: 19,172
    SeaBee said:

    Boiling the first running.... Just bring to a boil and shut off or boil until I add the second and third runnings?



    Just let it boil for 5 minutes or so ... and shut it off ... just enough to break
    From the sweat of man, and God's love.... beer came into the world
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    ceannt said:

    SeaBee said:

    Boiling the first running.... Just bring to a boil and shut off or boil until I add the second and third runnings?



    Just let it boil for 5 minutes or so ... and shut it off ... just enough to break

    Done and done.
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    I'm going to try to plan this for my next off week. That would be 4 weeks from now. With that small of a mash I can still heat strike and sparge water on the stove this time. If @Lakewood would like to send me components of this recipe instead of a complete kit this time, I'm fine with that. My brew days don't come very often.
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    Whatever yup have on hand you'd like to get rid of.
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • LakewoodLakewood
    5528.00 KarmaPosts: 37,734
    I'll pull some stuff together for you and send it your way next week.
    Baby Charlotte has arrived.
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    Eff it, I'm going to try to brew Sunday...
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    $65 isn't bad for a 10 gallon batch in this case I don't think. AG would be better. And bulk purchased grain better yet. But still. I didn't notice the box till I was half way home...
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    1440 x 2560 - 433K
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • FromZwolleFromZwolle
    6484.00 KarmaPosts: 28,457
    woohoo, brewing!
  • jlwjlw
    10944.00 KarmaPosts: 12,176
    fwiw his IRA is freaking incredible.
    On tap:
    Ewald's Altbier
    Bottle:
    Wee Heavy, Black Saison, Hopped Robust Porter, Renegade Rye IPA

    Scheduled 2012: IPA, Eisbock, RIS for next Christmas, Black Rye IIPA
    Q1 2013: Oktoberfest, IIPA, Saison
    Q2 2013: Hefe, Porter
  • LakewoodLakewood
    5528.00 KarmaPosts: 37,734
    Cool, so the lhbs wasn't too bad? Good news there
    Baby Charlotte has arrived.
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    Lakewood said:

    Cool, so the lhbs wasn't too bad? Good news there


    The guy is a Whatevs, but the prices aren't terrible and he has a huge selection.
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
  • LakewoodLakewood
    5528.00 KarmaPosts: 37,734
    CB said:

    Lakewood said:

    Cool, so the lhbs wasn't too bad? Good news there


    The guy is a Whatevs, but the prices aren't terrible and he has a huge selection.

    Sounds like a win to me
    Baby Charlotte has arrived.
  • C_BC_B
    5010.00 KarmaPosts: 37,411
    @ceannt any last minute thoughts? Planning to brew this tomorrow afternoon, weather permitting.
    Globe says Erie PA, analytics says Honolulu, it's just CB ~Lakewood
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