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My next IIPA
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,417
    Basically, I am using the grain base for Avery Maharaja and some of the hop schedule. However, I tried to use the hops I already had in the freezer so I had to change the recipe up quite a bit. Also, I got a lot of whole leaf simcoe hops. Which is cool because now I guess I can call it mine. Next time I may change the grains as well. Here is what I am doing:

    The original:
    Boil Size: 6.93 gal
    Post Boil Volume: 6.24 gal
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
    Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.089 SG
    Estimated Color: 10.5 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 90.7 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 92.7 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    ------------
    Amt Name Type # %/IBU
    15 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 93.8 %
    8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 2 3.1 %
    8.0 oz Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.1 %
    2.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 64.1 IBUs - Sub with Cascade or Magnum
    1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 30. Hop 5 26.5 IBUs - Sub with Chinook
    2.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
    2.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
    4.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
    2.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
    2.00 oz Crystal [3.50 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs2.0 pkg - Sub with Chinook
    California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 8 -

  • ThymThym
    Posts: 103,796
    Thats looks tastey. When did you brew it?
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  • jlwjlw
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    Lakewood said:

    Thats looks tastey. When did you brew it?



    I will be brewing it this weekend. Hopefully first thing Saturday morning.
  • ThymThym
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    jlw said:

    Lakewood said:

    Thats looks tastey. When did you brew it?



    I will be brewing it this weekend. Hopefully first thing Saturday morning.


    Very cool. This should be a good one.
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  • ceanntceannt
    Posts: 48,486
    That looks good.
    But, don't you think you should put some hops in there???

    (good god, that will be a hoppy SOB!)

    I'm not a real fan of Simcoe, but the combination of everything sounds awesome.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    you have no flavor hops in there, if i am reading that right.
    you'll get some flavor off the dry hopping, but not much and with caramel 120L in it you will have strong sweet malty flavors...not generally what you're looking for in a IIPA, but if it floats your boat, go for it.
    i would dial back the bittering hops by 40% and then make up for it in the 10 and 20 minute time frames to bolster the flava!
    gots to have mad flava!

    although, i have started skipping bittering hops altogether recently and dont' add any hops until 25 minutes......when i begin to add A LOT!!!!
  • ThymThym
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    you have no flavor hops in there, if i am reading that right.
    you'll get some flavor off the dry hopping, but not much and with caramel 120L in it you will have strong sweet malty flavors...not generally what you're looking for in a IIPA, but if it floats your boat, go for it.
    i would dial back the bittering hops by 40% and then make up for it in the 10 and 20 minute time frames to bolster the flava!
    gots to have mad flava!

    although, i have started skipping bittering hops altogether recently and dont' add any hops until 25 minutes......when i begin to add A LOT!!!!



    unless he can batch chill the entire volume in less than 10 minutes, the 5 oz at t-0 will end up producing a lotta flava.
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  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    ok this is what i got when i loaded it into my program


    New Recipe
    0- Untitled Style

    Size: 6.48 gal
    Efficiency: 104.1%
    Attenuation: 75.0%
    Calories: 299.08 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

    Original Gravity: 1.089 (1.000 - 1.100)
    Terminal Gravity: 1.022 (1.000 - 1.100)
    Color: 13.99 (0.0 - 50.0)
    Alcohol: 8.85% (0.0% - 10.0%)
    Bitterness: 106.3 (0.0 - 50.0)

    Ingredients:
    15.0 lb Pale Ale Malt
    8.0 oz Crystal Malt 120°L
    8.0 oz Victory® Malt
    2.0 oz Simcoe® (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 m
    1.0 oz Columbus (15.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30 m
    2.5 oz Simcoe® (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 0 m
    2.5 oz Centennial (10.0%) - added during boil, boiled 0 m
    4.5 oz Simcoe® (13.0%)
    2.5 oz Centennial (10.0%)
    2.0 oz Crystal (3.3%)
    1.0 ea White Labs WLP001 California Ale


    Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.5.21
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  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    106.3 IBU
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  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    but it looks awsome
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  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,417
    What is I don;t dial back the bittering hops and just add a butt load more flavoring hops?
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
    Posts: 44,679
    Lakewood said:

    unless he can batch chill the entire volume in less than 10 minutes, the 5 oz at t-0 will end up producing a lotta flava.



    yeah, but deriving all your hop flavor from flamout additions makes it kind of one dimensional. a IIPA shoudl be complexy hoppy in my book.
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
    Posts: 44,679
    jlw said:

    What is I don;t dial back the bittering hops and just add a butt load more flavoring hops?



    then it may be too bitter....but if you want to run that risk, go for it
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,417

    jlw said:

    What is I don;t dial back the bittering hops and just add a butt load more flavoring hops?



    then it may be too bitter....but if you want to run that risk, go for it


    I'll play around with the recipe tonight. Need to get it dialed in before Friday Saturday morning.
  • ceanntceannt
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    Hey..... have you thought about first wort hopping it????
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Gives a "smoother" bitterness, and good flavor......
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  • jlwjlw
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    ceannt said:

    Hey..... have you thought about first wort hopping it????



    No. Tell me a little more. Do I drain the first runnings and then add hops?
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,417
    Here is my revised recipe. turned down the bittering hops just a bit and added flavor hops.


    Recipe Specifications
    --------------------------
    Boil Size: 6.93 gal
    Post Boil Volume: 6.24 gal
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
    Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.089 SG
    Estimated Color: 10.5 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 108.6 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 92.7 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    ------------
    Amt Name Type # %/IBU
    15 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 93.8 %
    8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 2 3.1 %
    8.0 oz Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.1 %
    1.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 51.8 IBUs
    1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 30. Hop 5 26.5 IBUs
    1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 15.9 IBUs
    1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 11.6 IBUs
    1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 8 2.7 IBUs
    2.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
    2.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
    2.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
    2.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
    4.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
    2.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 11 -



    Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
    Total Grain Weight: 16 lbs
    ----------------------------
    Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
    Mash In Add 20.00 qt of water at 167.7 F 152.0 F 60 min
    Mash Out Add 11.20 qt of water at 202.6 F 168.0 F 10 min

    Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (0.95gal, 0.35gal) of 168.0 F water
    Notes:
  • ceanntceannt
    Posts: 48,486
    jlw said:

    ceannt said:

    Hey..... have you thought about first wort hopping it????



    No. Tell me a little more. Do I drain the first runnings and then add hops?


    Yep.... just toss the hops in to your first runnings... let them sit until the boil.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    Calculate as a 20 minute addition
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  • jlwjlw
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    Cool. I am heating mash water right now
  • C_BC_B
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    ceannt said:

    jlw said:

    ceannt said:

    Hey..... have you thought about first wort hopping it????



    No. Tell me a little more. Do I drain the first runnings and then add hops?


    Yep.... just toss the hops in to your first runnings... let them sit until the boil.


    ceannt said:

    Calculate as a 20 minute addition


    So toss them in then take them out at the beginning of the boil? Or use a portion of the 60 minute addition for this, then leave them in for the boil?
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  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,417
    Flameout hops dropped in and now letting it rest for 30 min
  • jlwjlw
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    also got 70% efficiency which I figure is good for a bigger beer.
  • ceanntceannt
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    ceannt said:

    jlw said:

    ceannt said:

    Hey..... have you thought about first wort hopping it????



    No. Tell me a little more. Do I drain the first runnings and then add hops?


    Yep.... just toss the hops in to your first runnings... let them sit until the boil.


    ceannt said:

    Calculate as a 20 minute addition


    So toss them in then take them out at the beginning of the boil? Or use a portion of the 60 minute addition for this, then leave them in for the boil?

    Just leave them in
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  • jlwjlw
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    Oops. I pulled them out. Oh well. Next time.