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   Oktoberfest ALE II
 BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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 03-B European Amber Lager, Oktoberfest/Maerzen (scratch that, it's an ALE!)
 Min OG: 1.050 Max OG: 1.056
 Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 28
 Min Clr: 7 Max Clr: 14 Color in SRM, Lovibond
 Recipe Specifics
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 Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
 Total Grain (Lbs): 10.75
 Anticipated OG: 1.051 Plato: 12.61
 Anticipated SRM: 10.3
 Anticipated IBU: 21.4
 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
 Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes
 Grains
 
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 5.25 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)
 3.00 lbs. Vienna Malt
 2.00 lbs. Munich Malt(dark)
 0.50 lbs. Crystal 60L
 
 Hops
 
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 1.00 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 3.20%AA 60 min.
 0.50 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 3.20%AA 45 min.
 0.50 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 3.20%AA 25 min.
 Yeast
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 Danstar Nottingham
 Mash Schedule
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 Mash Type: Single Step
 Grain Lbs: 10.75
 Water Qts: 13.97 - Before Additional Infusions
 Water Gal: 3.49 - Before Additional Infusions
 Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.30 - Before Additional Infusions
 Saccharification Rest Temp : 152 Time: 60
 Mash-out Rest Temp : 212 Time: 10
 Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 10
 Total Mash Volume Gal: 4.35 - Dough-In Infusion Only
 All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
 Notes
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 ferment at 59-60 degrees to keep the flavors clean and subdued, the malt is the key player in this beer.
 Jesus didn't wear pants
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   I was toying with the idea of dropping the honey malt and going with 2 lbs of Munich dark malt instead, any thoughts?Jesus didn't wear pants
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   I'm going to brew this one up real soon so I can have it at thanksgiving dinner with the smoked turkey.Jesus didn't wear pants
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   I could use some test brewers to give this one a try and give tasting notes on it to further develop the recipeJesus didn't wear pants
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   Maybe drop the mash temp to 150-152? the malts should keep it in the proper mouthfeel and level of sweetness.
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   I would cut way back on the crystal .... way back. Loose the honey malt and bump the Vienna up to about 50% or higher ....
 Might be worth a decoction mash ...but doing the first runnings boil will get you closeNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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   azscoob said:Maybe drop the mash temp to 150-152? the malts should keep it in the proper mouthfeel and level of sweetness. 
 Yep ... 152 153....Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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   azscoob said:I was toying with the idea of dropping the honey malt and going with 2 lbs of Munich dark malt instead, any thoughts? 
 definitely drop the honey malt. i like it, just not for this type of beer.
 and i'd never say no to more munich malt!The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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   Ok, 152 on temp, drop honey malt and go back to 2 lb Munich, kick a half lb of crystal out and add it to the Vienna .
 Color drops to 10.3, but it still fits the bill, I would hate to up the Vienna too much, I find it to get too grainy tasting?Jesus didn't wear pants
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   azscoob said:Ok, 152 on temp, drop honey malt and go back to 2 lb Munich, kick a half lb of crystal out and add it to the Vienna . 
 Color drops to 10.3, but it still fits the bill, I would hate to up the Vienna too much, I find it to get too grainy tasting?
 my vienna lager doesn't taste grainy at all. :-??The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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   In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuityJesus didn't wear pants
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   That could be me though, I'm also one of those guys who only taste cat piss in beers brewed with simcoe.Jesus didn't wear pants
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   Oh, me likey. I need a lager I can do without lagering."On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
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   azscoob said:That could be me though, I'm also one of those guys who only taste cat piss in beers brewed with simcoe. 
 i agree with this 10000%The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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   azscoob said:In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity 
 well, here's my philosophy on brewing: if you like it, brew it that way. if not, don't.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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   azscoob said:In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity 
 Interesting ....... it should taste malty ...Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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   Good call on the hopsNever attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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   ceannt said:azscoob said:In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity 
 Interesting ....... it should taste malty ...
 Oh, its malty for sure.. I get a bit of biscuity toast notes as well that I pick up on and its like I focus in on that aspect of it for some reasonJesus didn't wear pants
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   azscoob said:ceannt said:azscoob said:In lagers I like it a lot, when I use it in ales it seems too grainy as opposed to biscuity 
 Interesting ....... it should taste malty ...
 Oh, its malty for sure.. I get a bit of biscuity toast notes as well that I pick up on and its like I focus in on that aspect of it for some reason
 Ok....
 Yeah... my version I use Vienna for base malt .... I will postie one of these days.Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
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   I adjusted the recipe above to reflect changes mentioned in this thread.Jesus didn't wear pants
Scoob's Oktoberfest Ale
    




