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  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,771
    I'd like to brew this weekend in order to build up a nice sized yeast cake for a marzen or possibly my vienna lager. Since I'm using dry yeast and don't feel like making a starter, I was going to brew up a cheap extract something or other.

    Does anyone have a quick and easy 'cheap' beer recipe they like? Something that will suite a hot summer night but still has enough flavor that I won't end up with 5 gallons of cooking beer.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    I'm leaning towards a munich helles, but I saw that @Mors brewed a classic american pilsner and didn't share the recipe.
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B
  • morsmors
    Posts: 231 Accepted Answer
    Heh, This is for a 12 gallon batch... and I did a cereal mash.

    19 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 79.2 %
    5 lbs cornmeal (1.3 SRM) Grain 2 20.8 %
    1.000 oz Hallertauer [4.30 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 3 9.3 IBUs
    1.250 oz Cluster [7.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 18.7 IBUs
    0.500 oz Styrian Goldings [4.90 %] - Boil 15.0 min

    For Mash(s):
    Put 5lbs of corn meal and 1lb of 6 row (ground) in 1.9 gallons of water. Mash at 153F for 20 minutes. Boil for 30-45 mins depending on corn flavor development desired (mailiard reactions). Add to main mash which should already be going in order to raise the temp of main mash. Mash at 144F for 30 mins. Add cereal mash to raise temp of main mash to 154F.

    Fermented with a conical collection of slurry of WLP800.
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  • ThymThym
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    cereal mash != quick and easy .

    but otherwise that sounds like a good beer. replace the pale with light DME and a do a small cereal mash for flavor. done.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,771
    still leaning towards a munich helles. because malty always wins.

    but i like the cap recipe. might just try popcorn in the mash. i've been planning on a cap this summer, but it'll have to wait until i finish the helles, then one or two more malty malty beers.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    By the way, I've done a corn meal cereal mash before, it's a sticky mess. More convenient than getting flaked corn, but if it's not a last minute brew, I'd prefer any other form of corn.
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  • ThymThym
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    I see that you rejected my answer.

    :-w
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    :D
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  • morsmors
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    Cereal mash doesn't add much time on... maybe a half hour to 45 mins. It also isn't a sticky mess if you add in some of the base grains and do the rest. :D
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    mors said:

    Cereal mash doesn't add much time on... maybe a half hour to 45 mins. It also isn't a sticky mess if you add in some of the base grains and do the rest. :D



    maybe, but I'd still like to try using popcorn in the mash. seems like it would be a fun way to do it.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    or cornflakes.

    BenS
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  • BenSBenS
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    or cornflakes.



    Ftw
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    BenS said:

    or cornflakes.



    Ftw


    have you ever used them? there are a bunch of 'other' ingredients like vitamins/minerals/salt that i'm a little hesitant to add to a light and clean flavored beer.
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  • morsmors
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    If you want to skip a cereal mash I would just go with flaked maize. ezpz... I just don't think it gives you quite the depth of flavor.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    mors said:

    If you want to skip a cereal mash I would just go with flaked maize. ezpz... I just don't think it gives you quite the depth of flavor.



    i don't really like the flaked, for that exact reason. it's just so bland.
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  • JerryJerry
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    14 lbs of MO
    WLP002
    12ibu form anything

    Mash high, boil first runnings.
    "Again?"
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,771

    14 lbs of MO
    WLP002
    12ibu form anything

    Mash high, boil first runnings.



    i don't have the first two things on this list, so probably not.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    plus, MO isn't my cup of tea for a lager.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    How about just steep a little caramunich or some'at .... toss in a bunch of munich malt extract ... do a 15 minute boil with one big hop addition .... maybe add in some honey.
    Just a simple session strength kind of thing.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    How about just steep a little caramunich or some'at .... toss in a bunch of munich malt extract ... do a 15 minute boil with one big hop addition .... maybe add in some honey.
    Just a simple session strength kind of thing.



    two reasons: this is not a word and i don't have, nor will i buy, munich malt extract.
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B
  • BenSBenS
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    BenS said:

    or cornflakes.



    Ftw


    have you ever used them? there are a bunch of 'other' ingredients like vitamins/minerals/salt that i'm a little hesitant to add to a light and clean flavored beer.


    I've used the super cheap, plain type of cornflakes as a flaked corn replacement. Worked fine. I don't recommend the box with marshmallows.
    There's no starting point. It's just a massive sea of shit to wade through until you find the occasional corn kernel. -DrCurly
  • ThymThym
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    How about fruity pebbles? That seems like a good replacement for rice.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    cocoa puffs it is.
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B