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I'm going to brew again in about a week and I am thinking rye IPA and another porter or a sam adams summer ale kinda thing with some lemon zest and grains of paradise. But I'll make another thread. This is what I have:
HOP AA%
columbus 12.8
Magnum 11.6
Cascade 6.6
willamette 6
Tettnanger 4
Magnum 11.6
cascade leaf 8.8
crystal leaf 3.3
Galena 13.2
Nuggett 12.4
Colombus 13.3
Summit 15.5
Warrior 16
Willamette 4
My malts:
Two Row
Marris Otter
Crystal 60
Crystal 120
Vienna
Aromatic
Victory
Unmalted Wheat
Chocolate
Flaked Rye
Crystal 10
Special B
I'm not opposed to ordering something else but I feel like this should do it. About 6-8%abv is fine. Going for taste not drunk. I wouldn't mind having some good head as well.
Thanks in advance
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Rye Humorator All-grain
Color
Stats
OG 1.110
FG 1.028
IBU 33
ABV 10.60 %
SRM 15
BJCP Style
14C. Bock, Doppelbock
Recipe Details
Tasting Notes malty doppelbock with the familiar rye spicyness of a roggenbeer.
Awards I've had requests for the recipe.
Boil Volume 5.00 gallons
Boil Time 180 minutes
Batch Size 2.50 gallons
Yeast Saflager S-23 (75% app. attenuation)
Primary Fermentation glass 7 days
Secondary Fermentation glass 62 days
Other Fermentation dryhop 30 days before bottling, 1/4 oz. Perle
Procedure 1 qt. per lb. Infusion mash at ph 5.2 at 150f for 40 min.- add 1 gallon 195f water to thin mash for 30 min. more.- Sparge at 170f to collect 4 gallons Boil for 3 hours adding hops as directed.
Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.073 1.110 1.120
FG 1.018 1.028 1.030
IBU 20 33 40
SRM 12 15 30
ABV 7.5 10.60 12
Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Note Gravity Points Color
39.5 % 4.00 American Two-row Pale Briess 44.4 1.8
39.5 % 4.00 Flaked Rye generic 43.2 2.8
19.7 % 2.00 American Vienna Briess 21.0 4.0
1.3 % 0.13 American Chocolate 2 oz. 1.1 350.0
10.13 109.7
Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Note Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
50.0 % 0.50 Perle Pellet 7.7 3.9 60 0.243 28.0
25.0 % 0.25 Perle Pellet 7.7 1.9 10 0.088 5.1
25.0 % 0.25 Perle dry hop Pellet 7.7 1.9 0 0.000 0.0
1.00 33.0
Miscellaneous Ingredients
1 tsp Irish Moss last 15 min.
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Thanks lothos. I should add a couple of things to show my limitations tho. OG 1.09 is just about my limit for my system. I suppose I could make smaller batches but really don't like going that route because the return on the time investment goes down. I'm limited because my system is Biab and I just can't lift much more wet grain than what it takes to make a 1.09ish beer.
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Here is my rye ipa. Samples have tasted awesome and I am kegging tonight or Tuesday at the latest.
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Rye IPA
Brewer: Le Freak
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.93 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.72 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 13.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 77.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.5 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 75.0 %
1 lbs 12.0 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 14.6 %
4.0 oz Chocolate Rye Malt (250.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.1 %
1 lbs Caramel Wheat Malt (46.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.3 %
1.25 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 55.5 IBUs
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 40.0 min Hop 6 4.1 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 5.7 IBUs
2.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 8 5.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 10 0.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 11 -
1.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 9 5.2 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 16.60 qt of water at 164.1 F 150.0 F 60 min
Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (0.88gal, 3.59gal) of 168.0 F water -
flyfisherwes said:
Thanks lothos. I should add a couple of things to show my limitations tho. OG 1.09 is just about my limit for my system. I suppose I could make smaller batches but really don't like going that route because the return on the time investment goes down. I'm limited because my system is Biab and I just can't lift much more wet grain than what it takes to make a 1.09ish beer.
HELL THATS SMALL BATCH ONLY 10.13 LBS OF GRAINAin't that a Bitch -
jlw said:
Here is my rye ipa. Samples have tasted awesome and I am kegging tonight or Tuesday at the latest.
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Rye IPA
Brewer: Le Freak
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.93 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.72 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 13.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 77.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.5 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 75.0 %
1 lbs 12.0 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 14.6 %
4.0 oz Chocolate Rye Malt (250.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.1 %
1 lbs Caramel Wheat Malt (46.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.3 %
1.25 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 55.5 IBUs
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 40.0 min Hop 6 4.1 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 5.7 IBUs
2.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 8 5.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 10 0.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 11 -
1.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 9 5.2 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 16.60 qt of water at 164.1 F 150.0 F 60 min
Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (0.88gal, 3.59gal) of 168.0 F water
that looks delicious, and i'm not an ipa type of guy.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
Id make it light on the ABU drop back on the chinook and the centennials. Replace them with saas or UK KGAin't that a Bitch
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Lothos said:
Id make it light on the ABU drop back on the chinook and the centennials. Replace them with saas or UK KG
no.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
because saaz and ekg have no place in an american ipa
The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
they get deported!The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
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so go with something else just not so damn bitter
bitter beers have no place in my beer cooler
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Lothos said:
so go with something else just not so damn bitter
bitter beers have no place in my beer cooler
i'd probably play with the hops a bit. move everything later and sneak in some tropical varieties. drop the ibu's a little, but as long as it's balanced well against the malt backbone, ibu's don't bother me.The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake -
I am thinking around 50-60 IBUs.
I am kinda stuck with what I have now.
What would this make in the right proportions?
golden promise 9lbs
flaked rye 1lb - 1.5lbs
crystal 60 or 120 .5lb-1lb
aromatic and/or victory and/or vienna .5lb-1lb (I really dont know what flavors these impart besides looking at the beer wiki malt chart and tasting them)
small portion of unmalted wheat for head
for a 1.065-1.070 OG
Hop schedule to be determined.
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I'm about to make a vienna smash... i cant remember how much I have of a lot of this stuff but I have a lot of vienna. and a good amount of victory too I believe.
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Grains Weight (g) Weight LBS
Total 7486 * 16.5040582
Marris Otter 3994 8.805518859
Two Row 2282 5.031725062
Vienna 428 0.943448449
Victory 285 0.628965633
UM wheat 285 0.628965633
crystal 120 68 0.150951752
Crystal 60 143 0.314482816
Hops:
Magnum 28 60
Cascade 28 30
colombus 28 20
Cascade 28 15
colombus 28 5
Cascade 28 0
Cascade 60 dry hop
So this turned out really freakin good. Say I used basically this same recipe with 1.5lbs of flaked rye or more or less. Would this be good? maybe take away the crystal malts? I like SN ruthless rye ipa and widmir brothers rye ipa. they both are brown/red in color. how close would this be? -
id probably just swap out the vienna and victory malts for rye and keep the crystal as it is.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Ok what format is this
Hops: ? time
Magnum 28 60
Cascade 28 30
colombus 28 20
Cascade 28 15
colombus 28 5
Cascade 28 0
Cascade 60 dry hop
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Lothos said:
Ok what format is this
Hops: ? time
Magnum 28 60
Cascade 28 30
colombus 28 20
Cascade 28 15
colombus 28 5
Cascade 28 0
Cascade 60 dry hop
what is the 28
i assume grams. but oz would be way more manly.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
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Do you think I could use all golden promise and forgo the MO? I know what I made this time is good but I get the feeling that Golden Promise is between MO and Two Row.
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you could. i would expect a bit of a change in the malt flavor, but not in detrimental way. just different, a little softer malt charecteristicThe only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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great. I'll be making this tomorrow then. I hope US05 doesn't change it much.
Just out of curiosity, what would the vienna and victory do to it? -
And should I alter the mash temp any with the rye?
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flyfisherwes said:
great. I'll be making this tomorrow then. I hope US05 doesn't change it much.
Just out of curiosity, what would the vienna and victory do to it?
Someone else may correct me here, but those two malt have pretty strong, distinctive flavor profiles. I think they may hide the earthy rye flavors and keep them from developing properly.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
ok. I was just wondering.
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The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
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Yeah, the same day that I had that porter that turned out so far over the OG.
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flyfisherwes said:
Yeah, the same day that I had that porter that turned out so far over the OG.
How did this one turn out?The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
The numbers were exactly as planned. I dunno about the taste yet. I brewed it a week ago.
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flyfisherwes said:
The numbers were exactly as planned. I dunno about the taste yet. I brewed it a week ago.
Yeah best to give it more than one week.The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny -
I would let it go three weeks in primary if you can. If not two will work.
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I'm not gonna secondary it. I'll probably leave it in primary for a month. I have some others that need bottling. I want to bottle my first porter that I want to bottle and let age a bit, and I have a regular ale thats a MH #9 clone that needs bottling. I have that "anthracite black ale" that probably could be bottled as well. Its been going about a month now I think. It will be 5 weeks in a week I believe.
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flyfisherwes said:
I'm not gonna secondary it. I'll probably leave it in primary for a month. I have some others that need bottling. I want to bottle my first porter that I want to bottle and let age a bit, and I have a regular ale thats a MH #9 clone that needs bottling. I have that "anthracite black ale" that probably could be bottled as well. Its been going about a month now I think. It will be 5 weeks in a week I believe.
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jlw said:flyfisherwes said:
I'm not gonna secondary it. I'll probably leave it in primary for a month. I have some others that need bottling. I want to bottle my first porter that I want to bottle and let age a bit, and I have a regular ale thats a MH #9 clone that needs bottling. I have that "anthracite black ale" that probably could be bottled as well. Its been going about a month now I think. It will be 5 weeks in a week I believe.
you have a nice pipeline going. Don;t forget to dry hop the black ale.
no doubt.
Rye IPA
