EdWort's recipe. Kinda. Apple juice and frozen apple juice concentrate. One can to one gallon is about right. Nottingham and yeast nutrient isn't a bad idea. Ferments out pretty quick. 6 months or more before it tastes great.

yeah, you can do that, but then you have a cyser, not an Apfelwine. it will have more mineral qualities from the honey.

frydogbrews said:

yeah, you can do that, but then you have a cyser, not an Apfelwine. it will have more mineral qualities from the honey.

Please define "mineral qualities".

C_dubbs said:

Benvarine said:

Jeep, have you posted your Apfelwein recipe somewhere?

jeepinjeepin said:

EdWort's recipe. Kinda. Apple juice and frozen apple juice concentrate. One can to one gallon is about right. Nottingham and yeast nutrient isn't a bad idea. Ferments out pretty quick. 6 months or more before it tastes great.

I want details. Like a legit recipe.

I lost my notes on it. I diluted and measured the concentrate so I could calculate OG if I added another can later. Some research tells me that the concentrate may be in the 75 brix range, while apple juice is around 15 brix. I've been planning a stepped feeding Apfelwein until the yeast craps out. I'll get on it.

C_dubbs said:

frydogbrews said:

yeah, you can do that, but then you have a cyser, not an Apfelwine. it will have more mineral qualities from the honey.

Please define "mineral qualities".

tastes like rocks, but in a good way......

you know how you can taste a minerally-ness in really hard water? most people like that flavor....same thing.

frydogbrews said:

C_dubbs said:

frydogbrews said:

yeah, you can do that, but then you have a cyser, not an Apfelwine. it will have more mineral qualities from the honey.

Please define "mineral qualities".

tastes like rocks, but in a good way......

you know how you can taste a minerally-ness in really hard water? most people like that flavor....same thing.

Ah ok. Yeah, I like that flavor.

frydogbrews said:

yeah, i seriously think you should never add honey unless you add 3 pounds or more. otherwise, you're just wasting honey. people that say they can taste 12 oz of honey added to a 5 gallon batch of beer need to do a blind tasting without the honey to realize that their brains are tricking them.

I wondered if that 3 pounds thing was coming out of a legit reason... I couldn't tell because I thought you were hammered. But this makes sense.

C_dubbs said:

frydogbrews said:

yeah, i seriously think you should never add honey unless you add 3 pounds or more. otherwise, you're just wasting honey. people that say they can taste 12 oz of honey added to a 5 gallon batch of beer need to do a blind tasting without the honey to realize that their brains are tricking them.

I wondered if that 3 pounds thing was coming out of a legit reason... I couldn't tell because I thought you were hammered. But this makes sense.

i was hammered though. just to be clear.

frydogbrews said:

yeah, i seriously think you should never add honey unless you add 3 pounds or more. otherwise, you're just wasting honey. people that say they can taste 12 oz of honey added to a 5 gallon batch of beer need to do a blind tasting without the honey to realize that their brains are tricking them.

Hey, the Kolsh recipe I got from @Lothos only had 12 oz. So that means you are full of crap or Lothos is trying to trick my brain. Which is it?

Benvarine said:

frydogbrews said:

yeah, i seriously think you should never add honey unless you add 3 pounds or more. otherwise, you're just wasting honey. people that say they can taste 12 oz of honey added to a 5 gallon batch of beer need to do a blind tasting without the honey to realize that their brains are tricking them.

Hey, the Kolsh recipe I got from @Lothos only had 12 oz. So that means you are full of crap or Lothos is trying to trick my brain. Which is it?

neither. lothos had already had his brain tricked and just passed the sickness on

@benvarine @C_dubbs

Here ya go. http://homebrewforums.net/discussion/828/ciderbomb-how-far-will-it-go#Item_1