What do you ferment in?
  • ThymThym
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    What kind of equipment do you use for a fermenter?

    Plastic Bucket?
    Glass Carboy?
    Keg?
    Conical? Plastic / Stainless?

    I have used the first three, pretty much stick to sanke based fermenters these days. But i still have a few carboys kickin' around for smaller batches.

    What say you?
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  • scoobscoob
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    I used to be a glass carboy guy, but I sold them off and picked up a small army of PET carboys, great price, tough to break, and easy to clean.

    I might step up to sanke based, but they are too tall for my current fermentation fridge
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I use plastic for beer..... still have one left from the '80s that I still use....
    carboys for cider and mead, went to a PET one a couple years ago.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    yeah, i pretty much do the same thing as ceannt, except once the plastic becomes discolored, it becomes a garage bucket and i get a new one for beer. i think i have 11 glass carboys and 6 buckets to cover all the wine and beer.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    mostly buckets, but some 1 gallon glass jugs for small experimental stuff. i also have a 3 gal better bottle and a 3 gallon pet/pete? bottle for cider/wine/whatevers.

    I'd love to have a keg fermenter, but it's hard to find em out here. first one is going to become a keggle, though.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    frydogbrews said:

    yeah, i pretty much do the same thing as ceannt, except once the plastic becomes discolored, it becomes a garage bucket and i get a new one for beer. i think i have 11 glass carboys and 6 buckets to cover all the wine and beer.



    hah! my old one is stained from many batches with lots of roasted malts.... have a new one that I haven't even used yet...
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  • ceanntceannt
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    I would like a keg fermenter also.... but I can't get my hands on one for a keggle... so it may be a while...
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  • C_BC_B
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    Plastic Ale Pails for beer. I have 6 or 8 glass carboys for the longer aging stuff and mead I haven't done yet.
    I do have a complete sanke I might like to turn into a DJ style fermemter. But that's a little down the road.
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    I mostly use glass, but have a few plastic vessels in rotation. Food grade, but not made for brewing.
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  • ThymThym
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    I mostly use glass, but have a few plastic vessels in rotation. Food grade, but not made for brewing.



    water jugs?
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    I primarily brew in 3 gal batches as that is what my current equipment allows.
    Now that Christmas has passed I have acquired new fermentation capacity.

    I now have two 3 gal glass carboys (Thing 1 and Thing 2), and one 5 gal glass carboy, which I will use to step up recipes that I enjoy enough to make some more of!
    I also have one 3gal PET carboy, but it has been scratched to no end on the inside, so I am saving it to become my primary sour fermenter when I start doing sours.
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  • jlwjlw
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    I have four 7 gallon plastic buckets that I use for primary fermentation. I also dry hop in these because it's much easier to remove the hop bag. I also have four 5 gallon glass carboy's that get used for long secondaries.
  • ThymThym
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    jlw said:

    I have four 7 gallon plastic buckets that I use for primary fermentation. I also dry hop in these because it's much easier to remove the hop bag. I also have four 5 gallon glass carboy's that get used for long secondaries.



    that makes sense. I've got a couple 5gal glass carboys i keep around, in case i want to shove some stuff in a carboy and forget about it for a long time.

    @evan_b i've never seen anyone with 3 gal carboys, how much can you actually primary in one of those like 2gal?
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.
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  • scoobscoob
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    Evan_B said:

    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.


    @Evan_B

    If you wouldn't mind, how about putting up a thread detailing your process and equipment.

    I'm always impressed with brewers and the innovative approaches to brewing.
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.


    @Evan_B

    If you wouldn't mind, how about putting up a thread detailing your process and equipment.

    I'm always impressed with brewers and the innovative approaches to brewing.


    I'd be happy to. It may take me a day or two to get a write up going, but once I do I will be sure to post it! Happy to share any experience I can.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • scoobscoob
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    Evan_B said:

    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.


    @Evan_B

    If you wouldn't mind, how about putting up a thread detailing your process and equipment.

    I'm always impressed with brewers and the innovative approaches to brewing.


    I'd be happy to. It may take me a day or two to get a write up going, but once I do I will be sure to post it! Happy to share any experience I can.


    Beer porn!
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.


    @Evan_B

    If you wouldn't mind, how about putting up a thread detailing your process and equipment.

    I'm always impressed with brewers and the innovative approaches to brewing.


    I'd be happy to. It may take me a day or two to get a write up going, but once I do I will be sure to post it! Happy to share any experience I can.


    Beer porn!


    Actually, I'll just brew tomorrow (I have an empty carboy afterall), and snap some photos to go along with it.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • jlwjlw
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    Evan_B said:

    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.


    @Evan_B

    If you wouldn't mind, how about putting up a thread detailing your process and equipment.

    I'm always impressed with brewers and the innovative approaches to brewing.


    I'd be happy to. It may take me a day or two to get a write up going, but once I do I will be sure to post it! Happy to share any experience I can.


    Beer porn!


    Actually, I'll just brew tomorrow (I have an empty carboy afterall), and snap some photos to go along with it.


    Now that's the spirit.
  • C_BC_B
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    Evan_B said:

    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    azscoob said:

    Evan_B said:

    I am usually able to squeeze 2.5 gal in each, but just need to be sure to always have a blow-off tube. I like the smaller batches at this point. It is way cheap to brew a batch, and I can literally throw something together in just a few hours, which makes it easier to brew more often. It just works for what equipment I have.


    @Evan_B

    If you wouldn't mind, how about putting up a thread detailing your process and equipment.

    I'm always impressed with brewers and the innovative approaches to brewing.


    I'd be happy to. It may take me a day or two to get a write up going, but once I do I will be sure to post it! Happy to share any experience I can.


    Beer porn!


    Actually, I'll just brew tomorrow (I have an empty carboy afterall), and snap some photos to go along with it.

    There you go.

    You can also start putting a thread together and Save a Draft instead of posting it immediately. That's a nice way of working on a something like that.
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    So I finished up my batch of smoked porter about 20 minutes ago. As I finished cleaning up I realized that I forgot to take the frickin' photos! I might be able to do a batch in a few weeks, and WILL remind my self to photograph the event.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • ThymThym
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    Evan_B said:

    So I finished up my batch of smoked porter about 20 minutes ago. As I finished cleaning up I realized that I forgot to take the frickin' photos! I might be able to do a batch in a few weeks, and WILL remind my self to photograph the event.



    Ahhhhh!!!!
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  • ThymThym
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    you should tattoo PHOTO on your knuckles so you remember.
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    Lakewood said:

    you should tattoo PHOTO on your knuckles so you remember.



    Despite many warnings as a child I still have a bad habit of writing reminders on my hands and arms.... why stop now?
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  • ThymThym
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    Evan_B said:

    Lakewood said:

    you should tattoo PHOTO on your knuckles so you remember.



    Despite many warnings as a child I still have a bad habit of writing reminders on my hands and arms.... why stop now?


    HA!
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  • N_ClarkN_Clark
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    I use plastic fermenters a I got sick of cleaning glass carboys and lugging them around. I only clean them with wet paper towels though so they don't scratch and give bacteria a place to hide. So yesterday I kegged my brown ale though and it left discoloration. I usually use bleach to clean but I'm going yo try a beer line cleaner soak this weekend as I've been impressed with what that removes from inside kegs. I'll try to remember to take a before and after pic.
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Mostly better bottles but I have some buckets for overflow if I need them.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    N_Clark said:

    I use plastic fermenters a I got sick of cleaning glass carboys and lugging them around. I only clean them with wet paper towels though so they don't scratch and give bacteria a place to hide. So yesterday I kegged my brown ale though and it left discoloration. I usually use bleach to clean but I'm going yo try a beer line cleaner soak this weekend as I've been impressed with what that removes from inside kegs. I'll try to remember to take a before and after pic.



    My 20 year old plus bucket fermenter is permanently stained from many many batches with lots of roasted malts ... don't bother me a bit :)
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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    An extension of the OP. What readily available, affordable options exist for fermenting 10+ gallons? Shut up @lakewood, I know you use sankes.
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    An extension of the OP. What readily available, affordable options exist for fermenting 10+ gallons? Shut up @lakewood, I know you use sankes.



    ha!

    besides sankes...

    there are plastic tanks called "inductor" tanks which have a 60deg conical bottom. they are a medium density polyethylene so they are fine for a primary ferment and come in a variety of sizes, but take a little handywork to turn into a fermenter (just like a sanke : hahaha)

    there are also glass carboy's up to twenty gallons, but they cost a few bucks and go boom if you drop them.

    those are the two most economical options i'm aware of. if you have a tig welder and a bunch of stainless laying around you could make your own conical, but that's a fair amount of work and buying the cone still costs quite a bit.

    of course there are less modern vessels which could be used if you don't mind a little "old-world charm" basically any tub (think rubermaid storage bin) could be used. though i've never attempted that.
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  • C_BC_B
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    I've seen the poly tanks. Those seem like a pretty cool deal. And not a terrible price tag either.
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  • ThymThym
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    C_dubbs said:

    I've seen the poly tanks. Those seem like a pretty cool deal. And not a terrible price tag either.



    Not a bad price at all really. I almost picked up two 30gal inductor tanks for next to nothing, but really didn't have anywhere to store them.
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    I've seen the plastic conicals used in beer. They put casters on them to roll around and a banjo ball valve on the bottom. They are around $150-$175 if I recall. You can also buy trash can type buckets that are food grade, typically used in wine. Our LHBS has them, cheap in comparison to the conical options. Difficult part is building a super sturdy shelf somewhere they can ferment, I don't see you moving them around full.
  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    Anybody used commercial food storage buckets? I haven't been in my local Chefsmart lately. I can't remember the largest size they had.
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  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    I've seen the plastic conicals used in beer. They put casters on them to roll around and a banjo ball valve on the bottom. They are around $150-$175 if I recall. You can also buy trash can type buckets that are food grade, typically used in wine. Our LHBS has them, cheap in comparison to the conical options. Difficult part is building a super sturdy shelf somewhere they can ferment, I don't see you moving them around full.



    The ball valve adds significantly to the cost, but yes they are very economical. The only drawback is the lack of a positive seal on the cap.
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Anybody used commercial food storage buckets? I haven't been in my local Chefsmart lately. I can't remember the largest size they had.



    Not I, but there's your "old-world charm" option.
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  • BenSBenS
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    Anybody used commercial food storage buckets? I haven't been in my local Chefsmart lately. I can't remember the largest size they had.



    I used one once. I did a steam beer in it and put plastic wrap bungied around the top so I could watch fermentation. Pretty cool. Then I started using it as a grain bin. Otherwise I use sankes or carboys (glass and BB)
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  • BenSBenS
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    It was 15 gal btw. 11 gal batch
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    Remember what that guy cost?
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    http://www.ntotank.com/15gafudrcobo.html

    This is what I was talking about. You can screw on a ball valve to dump the whole thing and also install your own valve above that to drain without the trub. A nano brewery I visited used one like this.
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    http://www.ntotank.com/15gafudrcobo.html

    This is what I was talking about. You can screw on a ball valve to dump the whole thing and also install your own valve above that to drain without the trub. A nano brewery I visited used one like this.



    oh, that's a great one. HDPE instead of the MDPE ones i had been running into.

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  • jeepinjeepinjeepinjeepin
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    That's not a bad price. It's a pretty dang good one when you realize it includes the stand.
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  • ThymThym
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    jeepinjeepin said:

    That's not a bad price. It's a pretty dang good one when you realize it includes the stand.



    it gets a little worse when you factor in the cost of the valves and fittings...
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    They aren't that bad, a valve may run $20
  • ThymThym
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    Benvarine said:

    They aren't that bad, a valve may run $20



    Its not too bad, but most people install a 2" ball valve on the bottom for a dump valve, then install a thru-hull raking cane and 3/4" ball valve for transfer. No matter what way you go with it, they are a very economical choice. Definitely the route I plan to go if I end up doing a pilot brewery.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    yeah... a 2" ball valve is a bit pricey...
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    yeah... a 2" ball valve is a bit pricey...



    The pair of fermenters I was looking at had 2" stainless steel ball valves. They were worth more than the vessels.
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  • jlwjlw
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    I saw a friend of mine on facebook just bought a plastic conical fermentor.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    jlw said:

    I saw a friend of mine on facebook just bought a plastic conical fermentor.



    we'll be needing a review after he uses it for a while.
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  • jlwjlw
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    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    I saw a friend of mine on facebook just bought a plastic conical fermentor.



    we'll be needing a review after he uses it for a while.

    i'll try to get him to come here and do a review.
  • C_BC_B
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    FromZwolle said:

    jlw said:

    I saw a friend of mine on facebook just bought a plastic conical fermentor.



    we'll be needing a review after he uses it for a while.


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