Centennial APA
  • C_BC_B
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    Here's the link to the Hopville recipe. I hate the copying and pasting from hopville. So click the dang link.
    What I can't figure out is when I double everything in this Bell's Two Hearted clone I get 42 IBUs where the stated recipe calls out 64 IBUs. So I adjusted the above recipe to 48 at least. Still not really enough, but I'm playing with it.
    Thoughts on the IBU shenanigans?
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  • ThymThym
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    the link provided took me to a very broken page in hopville, with no recipe... no bueno.

    i put my thoughts about the ibu discrepancy on the other thread.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Lakewood said:

    the link provided took me to a very broken page in hopville, with no recipe... no bueno.

    i put my thoughts about the ibu discrepancy on the other thread.


    Oups. Link fixed. I should have caught that...
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    in what world does centennial have AA of 5? not the one i live in. i think that's your problem.
    also, i would cut the bittering hops in half and convert them them to mad flava hops. then toss in even more flavor hops to get the ibu's over 70. that's just me though. i mean, if you wanna play with a big dog like centennial, don't leash him up, let him run wild.
  • C_BC_B
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    in what world does centennial have AA of 5? not the one i live in. i think that's your problem.
    also, i would cut the bittering hops in half and convert them them to mad flava hops. then toss in even more flavor hops to get the ibu's over 70. that's just me though. i mean, if you wanna play with a big dog like centennial, don't leash him up, let him run wild.



    Yep. The ones I have are 11.5%.... I like where your head's at.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Really, flava flava is what I'm after. Not bitter bitter.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    C_dubbs said:

    Really, flava flava is what I'm after. Not bitter bitter.



    then crank it down to one ounce bittering hops and go from there. don't increase your 20 minute addition any either. increase 15 a little and ten minute A LOT!
  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    but really, once you change those AA levels, your IBU's are going to shoot through the roof.
  • ceanntceannt
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    but really, once you change those AA levels, your IBU's are going to shoot through the roof.


    Yup ....
    This is why I dislike software that uses n ingredient data base .... they are so often wrong .... even with grain .....
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    yeah, but hopville makes it very easy to change, its not a static value.
  • C_BC_B
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    yeah, but hopville makes it very easy to change, its not a static value.



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  • ceanntceannt
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    yeah, but hopville makes it very easy to change, its not a static value.



    yeah, but a whole lot of folks don't bother to make changes.........
    see the post above.......
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  • ceanntceannt
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    and therein lies the danger.......
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  • ceanntceannt
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    my point is.... if you have to look everything up to check anyway..... and change the dang numbers if necessary... why have the database at all???????
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    because i don't know how to calculate ibu's, and even if i did, I would have to create a database to put the recipe in. Todd whatshisname has already done that with hopville as well as provide me with an online backup to store me recipes in.

    on top of that, its free.
  • ceanntceannt
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    because i don't know how to calculate ibu's, and even if i did, I would have to create a database to put the recipe in. Todd whatshisname has already done that with hopville as well as provide me with an online backup to store me recipes in.

    on top of that, its free.



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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    smarter not harder old man.
  • ceanntceannt
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    Ha!
    That's why I made my spreadsheet .... but I enter all ingredient data my self .... that way I know its right!
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  • C_BC_B
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    Altered... Now its at 72.3 IBUs. Crap, I think that's enough. And I'm going to need more hops.... As is I have enough for the boil. No more. But, I'm thinking about using my false bottom for this one since the boil will be all leaf hops. Then get some pellet or whatever for the dry hops.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    now its sounding like a fairly tasty beer!

    i would just bag all those leaf hops, but i don't have a false bottom, only a real bottom.
  • C_BC_B
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    now its sounding like a fairly tasty beer!

    i would just bag all those leaf hops, but i don't have a false bottom, only a real bottom.



    That's probably a good idea if for nothing else to squeeze out all the worty goodness. I kinda wanted to try it see how clear I can get it using the same recirc to chill method but using leaf hops and a false bottom to filter out the break material.
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  • C_BC_B
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    How much should I expect to lose from a half pound of leaf hops?
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    C_dubbs said:

    now its sounding like a fairly tasty beer!

    i would just bag all those leaf hops, but i don't have a false bottom, only a real bottom.



    That's probably a good idea if for nothing else to squeeze out all the worty goodness. I kinda wanted to try it see how clear I can get it using the same recirc to chill method but using leaf hops and a false bottom to filter out the break material.


    if you plan on dry hopping anyway, you'll end up with a haze from that. bag em up and squeeze every drop out.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
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    C_dubbs said:

    How much should I expect to lose from a half pound of leaf hops?



    from a half pound, without any downward pressure to squish it out, just guessing i would say at least a half gallon, but probably more. and, especially with later additions, that's a bunch of your hop flavor stuck in there.

    don't forget to dry hop it around 4-5 days after ferments starts. you want a little fermentation to be going when you dry hop for maximum nose.
  • C_BC_B
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    C_dubbs said:

    How much should I expect to lose from a half pound of leaf hops?



    from a half pound, without any downward pressure to squish it out, just guessing i would say at least a half gallon, but probably more. and, especially with later additions, that's a bunch of your hop flavor stuck in there.

    don't forget to dry hop it around 4-5 days after ferments starts. you want a little fermentation to be going when you dry hop for maximum nose.


    Oh. I'm surprised its that much... I'll reevaluate that idea.
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  • C_BC_B
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    Mmk. This one is up next. What kind of yeast shall I use? American Ale 1272 plugged in now. But I prefer White Labs or dry. Maybe S04?
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