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Rye Saison
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    Found some extra time to squeeze in a small brew tomorrow.
    It is getting warmer out, so I thought I would try:
    I am going to split the batch in half.

    Rye Saison:

    Estimated OG - 1.054
    SRM - 4
    IBU - 33.7

    70% Briess Pilsen Malt
    30% Briess Rye Malt
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    0.75oz Willamette (4.7%aa) FWH

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    Sierra Nevada Ovila Saison dregs
    Brett B. (white labs) (used in half the batch after one month primary)


    Pretty simple really, but this will be a first in the farmhouse ale dept. for me.



    ...I'm sure there's something I'm forgetting.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • scoobscoob
    Posts: 16,617
    Any adjuncts like honey, candi sugar, spices, herbs?
    Jesus didn't wear pants
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    Nope.
    Being my first saison I figure I should start with a base and then adjust it accordingly.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766
    Evan_B said:

    Nope.
    Being my first saison I figure I should start with a base and then adjust it accordingly.



    solid plan. wish i brewed enough to really do that.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,373
    Evan_B said:


    ...I'm sure there's something I'm forgetting.



    rice hulls!!!!! rye is a pain without em.
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B
  • ceanntceannt
    Posts: 47,867
    I think rye in a saison would be yummy
    In wine there is wisdom.
    In beer there is freedom.
    In water there is bacteria.
  • ceanntceannt
    Posts: 47,867
    But with that much .... oh yeah .... rice hulls .....
    In wine there is wisdom.
    In beer there is freedom.
    In water there is bacteria.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,373
    ceannt said:

    I think rye in a saison would be yummy



    this. all day long.
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    This will be a BIAB so fortunately I don't have to stress over stuck sparges. I appreciate the input though.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766
    Evan_B said:

    This will be a BIAB so fortunately I don't have to stress over stuck sparges. I appreciate the input though.



    Oh to the simplicity of the biab. I should really do that more.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,373
    Lakewood said:

    Evan_B said:

    This will be a BIAB so fortunately I don't have to stress over stuck sparges. I appreciate the input though.



    Oh to the simplicity of the biab. I should really do that more.


    more than once a year, yes.
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B
  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766

    Lakewood said:

    Evan_B said:

    This will be a BIAB so fortunately I don't have to stress over stuck sparges. I appreciate the input though.



    Oh to the simplicity of the biab. I should really do that more.


    more than once a year, yes.


    Zing!
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766
    :(
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    Ovila Saison dreg starter has been going for about 24 hours, and in an act of spontaneity I just poured in the dregs from the Stone/Victory/DFH Saison du Buff. We'll see.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    I week in primary @ 75 degrees F - Gravity down to 1.010

    Plan on keeping things the same for one more week before racking one gallon to secondary and pitching Brett B.
    The other 1 gallon will go into bottles after three weeks.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766
    Evan_B said:

    I week in primary @ 75 degrees F - Gravity down to 1.010

    Plan on keeping things the same for one more week before racking one gallon to secondary and pitching Brett B.
    The other 1 gallon will go into bottles after three weeks.



    how long before the brett b has done it's thing?
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    Well it can take up to like five years. I don't think I will wait that long though...

    I will TRY to wait until Sept/Oct before bottling the gallon with brett.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766
    Evan_B said:

    Well it can take up to like five years. I don't think I will wait that long though...

    I will TRY to wait until Sept/Oct before bottling the gallon with brett.



    yeah, thats a long time
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    First week of primary @ 75F, second week decreased temp daily to 67F. Bottled one gallon today with gravity at 1.008.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • CZsCZs
    Posts: 228
    eager to here what elements of the du Buff you got - sounds awesome with rye - I'd love to get some Tank 7 yeasties (being an on the fly/accidental type beer) and infuse some Rye into that one too
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    CZs said:

    eager to here what elements of the du Buff you got - sounds awesome with rye - I'd love to get some Tank 7 yeasties (being an on the fly/accidental type beer) and infuse some Rye into that one too



    Man, I love that beer. I had a bottle of it the other day too. Wish I would have thought of that.

    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • CZsCZs
    Posts: 228
    Evan_B said:

    CZs said:

    eager to here what elements of the du Buff you got - sounds awesome with rye - I'd love to get some Tank 7 yeasties (being an on the fly/accidental type beer) and infuse some Rye into that one too



    Man, I love that beer. I had a bottle of it the other day too. Wish I would have thought of that.



    It's a shame the store I found it in only has it in 4-packs plus they charged an arm and a leg because they're a run of the mill beer stop and this was "specialty beer". The usual one I like to go to is a bit of a drive and, oh man, I gotta go there now - can't though, once i go in its like a 2 hr trip - if you've never had it before - I highly suggest Pepe Nero from Goose Island - surprisingly light tasting, dark saison over peppercorns. Not as many people like St. Feuillien Saison, but I'm in love with that one and pretty much everything Southampton
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    CZs said:

    Evan_B said:

    CZs said:

    eager to here what elements of the du Buff you got - sounds awesome with rye - I'd love to get some Tank 7 yeasties (being an on the fly/accidental type beer) and infuse some Rye into that one too



    Man, I love that beer. I had a bottle of it the other day too. Wish I would have thought of that.



    It's a shame the store I found it in only has it in 4-packs plus they charged an arm and a leg because they're a run of the mill beer stop and this was "specialty beer". The usual one I like to go to is a bit of a drive and, oh man, I gotta go there now - can't though, once i go in its like a 2 hr trip - if you've never had it before - I highly suggest Pepe Nero from Goose Island - surprisingly light tasting, dark saison over peppercorns. Not as many people like St. Feuillien Saison, but I'm in love with that one and pretty much everything Southampton


    Yeah, we only get four packs here as well, and they still cost an arm and leg.
    After trying a couple other Goose Island beers (Matilda, Sophie, Pere Jaques) I have been desperately trying to find Pepe Nero without any luck. I recently tried Saison Rue by The Bruery and I thought it was pretty awesome! I actually saved some dregs from that bottle and have it in a jar in my fridge right now.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,373
    i've only tried sophie from goose island. pity i don't see more of their experimental beers since the brewery is only about 45 minutes away.

    guess i'll just have to plan a trip this summer. :)
    "Oh, you were serious? I was drunk."-C_B
  • Evan_BEvan_B
    Posts: 312
    I was lucky to find Sophie. It was a 2010 bottle that I am pretty sure my local liquor store found in the back somewhere, so they stuck it out there just trying to sell it, not knowing any better. They have a bunch of Pere Jaques, which unfortunately was my least favorite.
    Amigo, lay them raises down.
  • CZsCZs
    Posts: 228
    I really enjoy the Saison Rue, but unfortunately, am not a fan of anything else of theirs - my last bad experience with The Bruery was with their Autumn Maple beer when I was trying to get inspirations for my Pumpkin Saison and it was like drinking old folks' home liquid cafeteria yams - sorry, I'm not usually harsh but that was my least favorite brew, ever, out of any beer, at least for me anyways - I checked the date too - should have been fine, and I went it to a fall style pretty adventurously knowing I would prob get some vegetal notes, like my pumpkin saison has in the nose - smells like a hint of squash but dang, I was dissapointed