Good brewing books to read?
  • C_BC_B
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    What are some of the brewing books that are good to read? I use software and other recipes to decide what to brew. If I had to lay out a brewday on paper I'd be screwed. What are some good reference points to learn how to do calculations and such "by hand"?
    Everyone says to read The Joy Of Homebrewing, but I'm not sure about that. I think it covers a lot that I already know. I want to get into more technical items.

    Jayrizzle
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • ThymThym
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    Here are two that i have held onto.

    Brewing Quality Beer - Byron Burch
    Designing Great Beers - Daniels

    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • scoobscoob
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    Technology Brewing And Malting (4th International Edition) by Wolfgang Kunze.   This is one mother of a brewing textbook: over 900 pages translated from German, more in depth than you may want , but maybe not....

    Ever wonder the details of mashing perimeters such as temperature, pH, thickness, ion content? Want to know all the pros and cons of mashing in at different temperatures?   The secret to happy yeast?   How different milling, and filtration systems work?   It’s all here.   ALL OF IT.   Yes, there are almost 200 pages on packaging beer, in case you were wondering about that...

    A bit pricey though.. $210.00
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  • ThymThym
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    azscoob said:

    Technology Brewing And Malting (4th International Edition) by Wolfgang Kunze.   This is one mother of a brewing textbook: over 900 pages translated from German, more in depth than you may want , but maybe not....

    Ever wonder the details of mashing perimeters such as temperature, pH, thickness, ion content? Want to know all the pros and cons of mashing in at different temperatures?   The secret to happy yeast?   How different milling, and filtration systems work?   It’s all here.   ALL OF IT.   Yes, there are almost 200 pages on packaging beer, in case you were wondering about that...

    A bit pricey though.. $210.00



    that's the book i want.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ceanntceannt
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    Lakewood said:

    azscoob said:

    Technology Brewing And Malting (4th International Edition) by Wolfgang Kunze.   This is one mother of a brewing textbook: over 900 pages translated from German, more in depth than you may want , but maybe not....

    Ever wonder the details of mashing perimeters such as temperature, pH, thickness, ion content? Want to know all the pros and cons of mashing in at different temperatures?   The secret to happy yeast?   How different milling, and filtration systems work?   It’s all here.   ALL OF IT.   Yes, there are almost 200 pages on packaging beer, in case you were wondering about that...

    A bit pricey though.. $210.00



    that's the book i want.


    Me too ....
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    somebody zerox me a copy.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.

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  • ThymThym
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    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.


    Yeah, oldskool, scoob - go hand scribe 3 copies of that book. Dont forget the pictures and diagrams.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • scoobscoob
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    Lakewood said:

    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.


    Yeah, oldskool, scoob - go hand scribe 3 copies of that book. Dont forget the pictures and diagrams.


    I'm on it, already on the 6th page of the first copy, I'm scribing it on parchment, hope that's ok.
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  • FuzzyFuzzy
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    azscoob said:

    Lakewood said:

    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.


    Yeah, oldskool, scoob - go hand scribe 3 copies of that book. Dont forget the pictures and diagrams.


    I'm on it, already on the 6th page of the first copy, I'm scribing it on parchment, hope that's ok.


    parchment? kids these days, too lazy to sun dry plant pulp into papyrus. [-(
    The pinnacle of lame and awesome in one singular moment. -Lake
  • ceanntceannt
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    azscoob said:

    Lakewood said:

    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.


    Yeah, oldskool, scoob - go hand scribe 3 copies of that book. Dont forget the pictures and diagrams.


    I'm on it, already on the 6th page of the first copy, I'm scribing it on parchment, hope that's ok.


    You are scribing it with blood aren't you?
    Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
  • scoobscoob
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    ceannt said:

    azscoob said:

    Lakewood said:

    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.


    Yeah, oldskool, scoob - go hand scribe 3 copies of that book. Dont forget the pictures and diagrams.


    I'm on it, already on the 6th page of the first copy, I'm scribing it on parchment, hope that's ok.


    You are scribing it with blood aren't you?


    Naturally, can't let those virgins go to waste, they have many uses in brewing.
    Jesus didn't wear pants
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    azscoob said:

    Lakewood said:

    FromZwolle said:

    ceannt said:

    FromZwolle said:

    somebody zerox me a copy.



    I was thinking somebody scan it to pdf ....


    i keep it oldskool.


    Yeah, oldskool, scoob - go hand scribe 3 copies of that book. Dont forget the pictures and diagrams.


    I'm on it, already on the 6th page of the first copy, I'm scribing it on parchment, hope that's ok.


    You lazy heap, good books are worth carving into stone. oldskool.
    "I don't have TP, but I do have ammo."
    -Some guy in Ohio
  • ThymThym
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    Wow, 3 of 14 posts on topic. That seams like a record of sorts.

    Does anyone else have any good book recommendations? There are lots of brewing books out there.
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • ceanntceannt
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    I enjoyed Radical Brewing by Randy Mosher
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  • ThymThym
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    ceannt said:

    I enjoyed Radical Brewing by Randy Mosher



    Xtreme brews by caglione is pretty good for recipe ideas
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • C_BC_B
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    I currently have and am reading The Homebrewer's Garden and another book about yeast I can't recall the name of. I'm looking for something a bit more technical regarding specifically recipe formulation and the brewing process.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • ThymThym
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    CB said:

    I currently have and am reading The Homebrewer's Garden and another book about yeast I can't recall the name of. I'm looking for something a bit more technical regarding specifically recipe formulation and the brewing process.



    Designing is a very practical facts and data based book to give you insight into recipe formulation.

    The caglione book is sort of an intro into a broader range of styles with examples of recipe formulations along with basic process info across many techniques.

    Palmers how to brew is my recommended starting point for technical process information
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    Wow, 3 of 14 posts on topic. That seams like a record of sorts.

    Does anyone else have any good book recommendations? There are lots of brewing books out there.


    Records are great, some are round vinyl with a hole in the middle, I ate a bagel sandwich this morning, with two eggs on it, those eggs where from my chickens and I like my chickens, when I got them it was winter, it sure is getting cold here, it seems winter is coming, have you ever watch game of throws, it's rather good, I like things that are good, I saw a book at a brew shop that looked good that was just about yeast, I think it was just called "yeast" I'd really like to track that down, that brew shop has gone under since then, I hate it when things I like go out of business.

    "I don't have TP, but I do have ammo."
    -Some guy in Ohio
  • ThymThym
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Lakewood said:

    Wow, 3 of 14 posts on topic. That seams like a record of sorts.

    Does anyone else have any good book recommendations? There are lots of brewing books out there.


    Records are great, some are round vinyl with a hole in the middle, I ate a bagel sandwich this morning, with two eggs on it, those eggs where from my chickens and I like my chickens, when I got them it was winter, it sure is getting cold here, it seems winter is coming, have you ever watch game of throws, it's rather good, I like things that are good, I saw a book at a brew shop that looked good that was just about yeast, I think it was just called "yeast" I'd really like to track that down, that brew shop has gone under since then, I hate it when things I like go out of business.



    http://www.amazon.com/Yeast-Practical-Fermentation-Brewing-Elements/dp/0937381969/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350192219&sr=8-1&keywords=yeast+book
    The only thing between me and a train wreck is blind luck..... - Kenny
  • C_BC_B
    Posts: 88,446
    Lakewood said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Lakewood said:

    Wow, 3 of 14 posts on topic. That seams like a record of sorts.

    Does anyone else have any good book recommendations? There are lots of brewing books out there.


    Records are great, some are round vinyl with a hole in the middle, I ate a bagel sandwich this morning, with two eggs on it, those eggs where from my chickens and I like my chickens, when I got them it was winter, it sure is getting cold here, it seems winter is coming, have you ever watch game of throws, it's rather good, I like things that are good, I saw a book at a brew shop that looked good that was just about yeast, I think it was just called "yeast" I'd really like to track that down, that brew shop has gone under since then, I hate it when things I like go out of business.



    http://www.amazon.com/Yeast-Practical-Fermentation-Brewing-Elements/dp/0937381969/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350192219&sr=8-1&keywords=yeast+book

    Yeah that's the book I have.
    "On it. I hate software." ~Cpt Snarklepants
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Lakewood said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Lakewood said:

    Wow, 3 of 14 posts on topic. That seams like a record of sorts.

    Does anyone else have any good book recommendations? There are lots of brewing books out there.


    Records are great, some are round vinyl with a hole in the middle, I ate a bagel sandwich this morning, with two eggs on it, those eggs where from my chickens and I like my chickens, when I got them it was winter, it sure is getting cold here, it seems winter is coming, have you ever watch game of throws, it's rather good, I like things that are good, I saw a book at a brew shop that looked good that was just about yeast, I think it was just called "yeast" I'd really like to track that down, that brew shop has gone under since then, I hate it when things I like go out of business.



    http://www.amazon.com/Yeast-Practical-Fermentation-Brewing-Elements/dp/0937381969/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350192219&sr=8-1&keywords=yeast+book


    That's the one, thanks!
    "I don't have TP, but I do have ammo."
    -Some guy in Ohio
  • BenvarineBenvarine
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    I like John Palmer's book. I use as a a reference, and its all online.

    I recommend Charile Papazzian's book for any new brewer. It's simple, a bit dated even though it is on its third edition. It can be a good reference for a new brewer. Once you get the hang of it I think it is a bit basic, but like I said. Good for beginner and constantly reminds you to not take it all too serious starting out.
  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    Benvarine said:

    I like John Palmer's book. I use as a a reference, and its all online.

    I recommend Charile Papazzian's book for any new brewer. It's simple, a bit dated even though it is on its third edition. It can be a good reference for a new brewer. Once you get the hang of it I think it is a bit basic, but like I said. Good for beginner and constantly reminds you to not take it all too serious starting out.



    Ah yes, Palmer's book. I've read the whole thing a few times (the online free one). There are many updates on the newest printed one, but you can make beer if you read the free one. I can't say it's the best starting place for brewers, but it was my starting place and it worked well. I enjoyed how it read, so read it all. Then reread bits here and there after I started brewing.
    "I don't have TP, but I do have ammo."
    -Some guy in Ohio
  • ceanntceannt
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    I always recommend "The London and Country Brewer" published in 1736... to new brewers .... puts things in perspective
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  • JayrizzleJayrizzle
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    ceannt said:

    I always recommend "The London and Country Brewer" published in 1736... to new brewers .... puts things in perspective


    Nothing like a book that out dates carbonation.
    Edit: I just looked it up and found a free PDF: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/london/all.pdf (4.4mb)

    scoob
    "I don't have TP, but I do have ammo."
    -Some guy in Ohio
  • scoobscoob
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    Benvarine said:

    I like John Palmer's book. I use as a a reference, and its all online.

    I recommend Charile Papazzian's book for any new brewer. It's simple, a bit dated even though it is on its third edition. It can be a good reference for a new brewer. Once you get the hang of it I think it is a bit basic, but like I said. Good for beginner and constantly reminds you to not take it all too serious starting out.



    Ah yes, Palmer's book. I've read the whole thing a few times (the online free one). There are many updates on the newest printed one, but you can make beer if you read the free one. I can't say it's the best starting place for brewers, but it was my starting place and it worked well. I enjoyed how it read, so read it all. Then reread bits here and there after I started brewing.

    I also read and reread that online version, it put my mind at ease when I was unsure if I did something wrong or whatnot.
    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    ceannt said:

    I always recommend "The London and Country Brewer" published in 1736... to new brewers .... puts things in perspective


    Nothing like a book that out dates carbonation.
    Edit: I just looked it up and found a free PDF: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/london/all.pdf (4.4mb)


    looks like I'm adding that to the kindle to read.
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  • scoobscoob
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    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    ceannt said:

    I always recommend "The London and Country Brewer" published in 1736... to new brewers .... puts things in perspective


    Nothing like a book that out dates carbonation.
    Edit: I just looked it up and found a free PDF: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/london/all.pdf (4.4mb)

    I have no issues understanding old English, or it's spellings, it's the huge lowercase letter S with the excessive ascender and descender height, looks too similar to the lowercase letter F with its tiny cross stroke that makes it tough to read.
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  • ceanntceannt
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    azscoob said:

    Dr_Jerryrigger said:

    ceannt said:

    I always recommend "The London and Country Brewer" published in 1736... to new brewers .... puts things in perspective


    Nothing like a book that out dates carbonation.
    Edit: I just looked it up and found a free PDF: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/london/all.pdf (4.4mb)

    I have no issues understanding old English, or it's spellings, it's the huge lowercase letter S with the excessive ascender and descender height, looks too similar to the lowercase letter F with its tiny cross stroke that makes it tough to read.


    hah... it's all the wordage about "humors" that gets to me..... I like how he goes into malting, the different fuels for kilning, and the different waters... goes to show you can brew beer without much understanding of what is really going on... to the point of having no clue what yeast is!
    I love stuff like this.
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