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  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    I have just started using BeerSmith. Seems great, but I am having some trouble n regards to quantity of grain for all extract w/grain recipes. I found a simple hefeweizen on Hopville, calls for 7 lbs Wheat LME, 10 oz each of Pilsner and wheat malt. 5 gallon batch. Entered into BeerSmith, says OG around 1.012, Hopville receipe said 1.048. When I adjusted BeerSmith to 1048, it calculated 37 lbs of extract. What the hell is wrong with that. That actually put it within the style guidelines, but I am clearly doing something wrong.
  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    Benvarine said:

    I have just started using BeerSmith. Seems great, but I am having some trouble n regards to quantity of grain for all extract w/grain recipes. I found a simple hefeweizen on Hopville, calls for 7 lbs Wheat LME, 10 oz each of Pilsner and wheat malt. 5 gallon batch. Entered into BeerSmith, says OG around 1.012, Hopville receipe said 1.048. When I adjusted BeerSmith to 1048, it calculated 37 lbs of extract. What the hell is wrong with that. That actually put it within the style guidelines, but I am clearly doing something wrong.



    which recipe is it ill load it into my program and see what i get
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  • LothosLothos
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    OK maybe I wont
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  • JerryJerry
    Posts: 73,692
    That's really odd. Quick estimation would suggest BS is the one that's off there. Make sure you have the right batch size selected. And note that it will tell you to make ~5.5gal for a 5 gal batch (due to trub loss), and make sure you eff% is set right for the given grains and extracts.
    I don't really like BS... seems great in theory but it kind of takes the fun out of it, at least for me.
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  • djsethalldjsethall
    Posts: 4,013
    I love BS.
  • JerryJerry
    Posts: 73,692
    djsethall said:

    I love BS.



    coming from the master of BS
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  • djsethalldjsethall
    Posts: 4,013

    djsethall said:

    I love BS.



    coming from the master of BS


    Hell fire, at least someone recognizes it. Pretty much sure you all recognize it though
  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    lol i dont use BS i use Beertools
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  • ThymThym
    Posts: 101,766
    I use my own tools. I never got good results from beersmith.
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  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,410
    I use BS but there have been times where calculations just seemed off.
  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    http://hopville.com/recipe/683277/weizen-weissbier-recipes/hefeweizen. Here is the Hopville recipe. Anyone else have a good hefeweizen?
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,410
    I do. Let me find it and I will attach.
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,410
    http://www.homebrewforums.net/discussion/39/ewalds-weissbier-ag#Item_2

    I can upload the bsm file when I get home. For what its worth when I designed this recipe I wanted to stay true to the Reinheitsgebot.
  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    jlw said:

    http://www.homebrewforums.net/discussion/39/ewalds-weissbier-ag#Item_2

    I can upload the bsm file when I get home. For what its worth when I designed this recipe I wanted to stay true to the Reinheitsgebot.



    I entered your reciepe, converted to extract, and it still has rice hulls in the ingredients. Is that necessary? What do I do with rice hulls if that is the case?
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,410
    The rice hulls add nothing to the beer so I would think you can just not put them in there. The only thing they do is help prevent a struck sparge from the wheat.
  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks.
  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    I also just looked at the BS reciepes that come with it, Lloyds Krispy Kolsh calls for 32 lbs of Carapils. Can that be right for a 5 gallon batch of extract?
  • jlwjlw
    Posts: 16,410
    Benvarine said:

    I also just looked at the BS reciepes that come with it, Lloyds Krispy Kolsh calls for 32 lbs of Carapils. Can that be right for a 5 gallon batch of extract?



    That can't be right. At the top of your recipe design page make sure you have 5 gallon batch.
  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    That one is thier recipe, I did nothing, but it lends to the argument that they have problems in their software, unless I am doing someting wrong.
  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    ok here is what i got from that hopville one

    New Recipe
    0- Untitled Style

    Size: 5.24 gal
    Efficiency: 81.0%
    Attenuation: 75.0%
    Calories: 187.24 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

    Original Gravity: 1.056 (1.000 - 1.100)
    Terminal Gravity: 1.014 (1.000 - 1.100)
    Color: 11.05 (0.0 - 50.0)
    Alcohol: 5.53% (0.0% - 10.0%)
    Bitterness: 20.6 (0.0 - 50.0)

    Ingredients:
    7.0 lb (84.8%) Liquid Wheat Extract - added during boil, boiled 60 m
    10 oz (7.6%) Pilsner Malt - steeped before boil
    10 oz (7.6%) Wheat Malt - steeped before boil
    0.7 oz (100.0%) Perle (8.3%) - added during boil, boiled 60 m
    1.0 tsp Irish Moss - added during boil, boiled 10 m
    1.0 ea Danstar WB-06 Munich Wheat Beer


    Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.5.22
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    That looks better. I wonder where the issue is or what I am doing wrong. Thanks.
  • LothosLothos
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    welcome
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    Ok, I figured it out, I put in Lothos receipe as he listed it, and I compared the one I entered, I was not entering wheat malt extract, but simply wheat malt, accidently added that instead of extract, makes sense that the OG was so low. Thanks.

    Still does not account for that Krispy Kolsh in their menu. I am determined to find out what I am doing wrong.
  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    Krispy Kolsh in their menu??

    i didnt see that any where
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  • BenvarineBenvarine
    Posts: 1,606
    Ok, so now that you say that, I went back, and it is gone. That receipe is what I have been playing with tonight to make a Kolsh. I will start a new thread in recipes that has the Summer Kolsh I am playing it apprers to be within guidelines, but the ABV is too high, not sure how to bring it down.
  • LothosLothos
    Posts: 2,146
    send to me in message and ill check it out
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