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Wild yeast from apples, how should I do this?
  • JerryJerry
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    So I ran a bunch of ground apples in a juicer and ended up with about a gal of juice. I put it in a clean carboy and with out doing anything it's turning into booze. It smells and tastes like yeast more than anything right now, but what should I do with it?
    Options:

    A) let it clear and decant off the yeast cake. Add wort and make beer.

    B) Decant after a week and use the first yeast that settles for beer, to grab the yeasts that will folcurate (sp?) best.

    C) Add small amounts of wort to the cider to make the sugar switch softer.

    And with any option should I acid wash the yeast before use with beer?
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  • Evan_BEvan_B
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    Be careful. There is probably a lot of other organisms in there besides just yeast. If you are willing to experiment a little (with the chance of getting sour beer), then I say go for it!!!!

    If it were me, I would let whatever is fermenting the juice run its course for a couple more days and then I would decant the juice off, rinse the buggies from whatever trub is mixed in there, and then pitch it in a starter before adding it to wort.
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  • JerryJerry
    Posts: 72,839
    Evan_B said:

    Be careful. There is probably a lot of other organisms in there besides just yeast. If you are willing to experiment a little (with the chance of getting sour beer), then I say go for it!!!!

    If it were me, I would let whatever is fermenting the juice run its course for a couple more days and then I would decant the juice off, rinse the buggies from whatever trub is mixed in there, and then pitch it in a starter before adding it to wort.



    Good points. I'm leaning more to the acid washing step the more I think about it. That would be mixing the cake with 10% or so phosphoric acid, which kills most stuff. It's rough on the yeast, but enough can make it to the next step.
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
    Posts: 44,679
    by now you noticed that much of the stuff in the bottom of the jug was pulp that settled out, not juice.
    Here is what i would have done.

    juice it

    after 3 days, strain now fermenting juice off into something else and throw away junk in bottom of original vessel.

    let remainder of the juice ferment for another 4 weeks. siphon into clean vessel and gather yeast

    let juice sit in new vessel for another 3 months, then drink it.
  • JerryJerry
    Posts: 72,839

    by now you noticed that much of the stuff in the bottom of the jug was pulp that settled out, not juice.
    Here is what i would have done.

    juice it

    after 3 days, strain now fermenting juice off into something else and throw away junk in bottom of original vessel.

    let remainder of the juice ferment for another 4 weeks. siphon into clean vessel and gather yeast

    let juice sit in new vessel for another 3 months, then drink it.



    That's about what I did, I just played around with the junk too much.

    Thread about me playing with it: http://homebrewforums.net/discussion/1131/acid-washing-wild-yeast
    "I'm going to guess that you are, indeed, fucked up."
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  • frydogbrewsfrydogbrews
    Posts: 44,679
    i don't want to look at a thread of you playing with it.

    JerryThym
  • FuzzyFuzzy
    Posts: 46,140

    by now you noticed that much of the stuff in the bottom of the jug was pulp that settled out, not juice.
    Here is what i would have done.

    juice it

    after 3 days, strain now fermenting juice off into something else and throw away junk in bottom of original vessel.

    let remainder of the juice ferment for another 4 weeks. siphon into clean vessel and gather yeast

    let juice sit in new vessel for another 3 months, then drink it.



    That's about what I did, I just played around with the junk too much.

    Thread about me playing with it: http://homebrewforums.net/discussion/1131/acid-washing-wild-yeast


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  • ceanntceannt
    Posts: 47,526

    by now you noticed that much of the stuff in the bottom of the jug was pulp that settled out, not juice.
    Here is what i would have done.

    juice it

    after 3 days, strain now fermenting juice off into something else and throw away junk in bottom of original vessel.

    let remainder of the juice ferment for another 4 weeks. siphon into clean vessel and gather yeast

    let juice sit in new vessel for another 3 months, then drink it.



    That's about what I did, I just played around with the junk too much.

    Thread about me playing with it: http://homebrewforums.net/discussion/1131/acid-washing-wild-yeast


    this post has been flagged as spam...


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  • JerryJerry
    Posts: 72,839
    ceannt said:

    by now you noticed that much of the stuff in the bottom of the jug was pulp that settled out, not juice.
    Here is what i would have done.

    juice it

    after 3 days, strain now fermenting juice off into something else and throw away junk in bottom of original vessel.

    let remainder of the juice ferment for another 4 weeks. siphon into clean vessel and gather yeast

    let juice sit in new vessel for another 3 months, then drink it.



    That's about what I did, I just played around with the junk too much.

    Thread about me playing with it: http://homebrewforums.net/discussion/1131/acid-washing-wild-yeast


    this post has been flagged as spam...


    Get out the ban hammer ....


    Not if I use mine first!
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  • ceanntceannt
    Posts: 47,526

    ceannt said:

    by now you noticed that much of the stuff in the bottom of the jug was pulp that settled out, not juice.
    Here is what i would have done.

    juice it

    after 3 days, strain now fermenting juice off into something else and throw away junk in bottom of original vessel.

    let remainder of the juice ferment for another 4 weeks. siphon into clean vessel and gather yeast

    let juice sit in new vessel for another 3 months, then drink it.



    That's about what I did, I just played around with the junk too much.

    Thread about me playing with it: http://homebrewforums.net/discussion/1131/acid-washing-wild-yeast


    this post has been flagged as spam...


    Get out the ban hammer ....


    Not if I use mine first!


    What? You're going to ban yourself????
    In wine there is wisdom.
    In beer there is freedom.
    In water there is bacteria.